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Old 04-17-2001, 12:28 AM
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paint experts that know something bout pearl in paint please step in quick!!!!

ok my car got painted today.. its black with blue pearl in it.. when i went and got the paint the guy and the store mixed in like 15 grams of pearl powder.. tonight befre we sprayed the car we remixed the paint real good. so anyways when the paint was layed out it layed out nice actually very nice. BUT we couldnt see any blue pearl in the paint at all!!!! we thought maybe when the clear was applied it would bring it out but it really didnt why is this does the pearl come out more after it has cured a bit or what?? or maybe its just certain light cause when u look at the paint can lid u can see the pearl palin as day?? whats up with this seems like 15 grams is a lot atleast that is what the gy who mixed the paint said he said it should turn out excellent but im kindof disapointed please please let me knwo what to do thanks!!!

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this run is before the new exhaust system new sticky tires coolant by pass smog removal new runners new thermostat and new three core radiator since i would get to the line and be well over 220* aluminum drive shaft and vette servo
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im sure when u get it out in the sun and it cures a bit itll come out
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[edit] now that i think about it, im sure its like a new muffler or springs. its gotta "settle" till u see the effect if u know what i mean
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Hope you didn't put the pearl in the paint itself. Pearl is suppose to be mixed in clear and shot over the base color, much like candy over a base. After the pearl/clear mix is shot, lay over the final coats of clear. Pearls are fine pieces of translucent mica that need light to show it's effects. That is why they need to be mixed in clear. Base colors, especially black, is too opaque to allow light transmission. That's why you can't see the effects of the powder pearl. The minute you shoot a coat of clear over that pearl base, you WILL see the effects of the pearl immediately. No need for cure time to see it. I've been painting custom paint jobs for over ten years and have always painted pearls this way. I've seen guys that have painted for longer that don't even know this about pearls and put it in the paint itself.
When I shoot pearls, I make a mix of over reduced clear (1 gallon worth) and "fog" coat the pearl mix over the car. Then top coat with clear. From my experience with House of Color or SEM powder pearls, one teaspoon to one gallon of clear is more than enough for dark colors such as black. Two to three teaspoons of pearl to one gallon of clear for light colors like white. Too much of the powder pearl will look milky and will ruin the effect.
If I were you, just take some "fine" grade scuff pads or 800-1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and wet send your entire car. Do the procedure I described above and you will be happy with the results. E-mail me if you have any questions.

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pearl goes over the color; sorry for your luck man, the paint guy should have known that!! just lightly sand it, and try to work with it.......i wish you luck; let us know how it turns out!! i painted a motorcycle with that combo and when done right it looks sweet.
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it got wet sanded today and the pearl came out auwsome!! it looks really good.. not to much and not to little actually the paint guy said that the powder that was mixed in the paint that is the way its suppose to go so anyways thanks for the help

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1988 firebird ws6 formula350tpi ascd ram air hood GT AUTO 4th gen spoiler black paint with blue pearl centerline champ 500 16x8 all around potenza 245 50 16 on front and 27x11.5 16 mickey thompson sportsman pros on the rear(real sticky!!) msd 6al box blaster 3 coil accel 8.8 race wires hooker shorty headers hooker cat back system pro shift light A pillar gauge pod and water temp and air/fuel ratio gauges autometer oil pressure gauge b&m mega console shifter vette servo custom ram air system with a 9" K&N cone filter tb coolant bypass slp runners polished plenum and runners 170* thermostat smog pump and a/c delete plus cat delete march underdrive pullies, tpis airfoil cvr high torque starter (love it) aluminum drive shaft
best 1/4 mile run of 14.44@ 96.53
this run is before the new exhaust system new sticky tires coolant by pass smog removal new runners new thermostat and new three core radiator since i would get to the line and be well over 220* aluminum drive shaft and vette servo
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Hate to argue, but pearls can and do go directly in the paint itself. In fact, most of the stock Chevy Corvette Colors have pearls mixed into the color itself. I have a 75 Stingray that we painted a 94 Vette color, and the "recipe" for mixing the color calls for a lot of blue pearl in the color itself. Its a PPG #4798 Dark Cloisonne Blue. Pearl can be added to the clear for a different effect. See ya!
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I think you guys are getting your terminology mixed up. It sounds to me like they put MICA in your paint. There aren't "pearls" to speak of. The "pearl" paint is a 3 stage paint system that includes a base color, followed by a "pearl coat" layer, then followed by clear coat. I put orange mica in my paint and found out the hard way that you need a TON of it or it won't show up worth a damn.

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