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Old 09-27-2006, 04:34 PM
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Painting black, but not gloss

I'm not familiar with painting much at all, so I don't know the whole process of getting it done.

What I'm wanting to do is make my car sort of flat black.. A buddy of mine did it on his truck and it looked terrible. But then I've seen some cars that look great with it. Is it all in the process? An example of what I want is this: http://www.vfnfiberglass.com/annetepromodcamaro2.JPG

I don't really want it to be glossy at all. What paint should I use to get it done? Should I just leave off the gloss coats or what? Links to useful threads would be just as appreciated as posts; just wasn't sure what to search for without spending days looking through all the painting threads.
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Personally I don't like flat black, it just looks unfinished.

Anyway, what you want to do (to do it right at least) will cost as much as a regular paint job. I don't remember the company but they sell the stuff to do it right, where there will be a clear coat and all that so the paint will last. You might search Google for that or someone else here might know.
Old 09-27-2006, 04:46 PM
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I'm going for the look of the old alcohol runners we had back in the day. Primer gray or flat black. I think I could pull it off pretty well. If not, I could always toss on a couple coats of clear to gloss it up a bit.
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I understand. I should have explained a little more, I only stopped because you weren't asking for opinions. When I say they look unfinished, that mostly comes into play when you've got a car with the potential to be a show car. The interior is mint, the body work is perfect, nice wheel/tire combo, clean engine and engine bay and then you throw flat black on it. YUCK! It just ruins it IMO. If you're going for the old rum runner look, then I imagine its not going to be a perfect car like that. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying it has to be trashed to have that look. Flat black just isn't my cup of tea so to speak, I'd never paint a car that color no matter what look I was going for. Like I said though, its your car and your decision and it really doesn't matter what I think!

Don't just primer it, even if you don't want to spring for the complete paint job kit I mentioned above. It needs to be sealed too or its not going to last.
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Don't just primer it, even if you don't want to spring for the complete paint job kit I mentioned above. It needs to be sealed too or its not going to last.

Yeah, the paintjob is going to be long term, so it needs to be done right. It'll probably be several months before I can do it, so I'm starting my homework now so I dont' screw it up later.
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I have to say my car did look pretty cool flat black, unfortunately it did not last...this is what happends to the color after 1 1/2 years of exposure to the elements using HIGH QUALITY paint BECAREFUL!





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Wow, that does look great! What all did you do to get it to look that way? Anyone have any ideas what can protect against it fading majorly like that?
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check out kustom shop flatz series paint it comes in a gallon mix it well and spray at all in one can. sweet 30% flat. works great ive used it on some motorcycle jobs

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you can paint the car flat with no problems but you cannot just paint it with like black primer and leave it like that. you need to have it done by someone who knows what they are doing. you can still do a bascoat, topcoat, clearcoat method just with a flat clearcoat not a gloss one. if done right it will last like any other regular paint job
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check out kustom shop flatz series paint it comes in a gallon mix it well and spray at all in one can. sweet 30% flat. works great ive used it on some motorcycle jobs

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Got any pictures of the jobs done using this stuff?
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Anyone have any ideas what can protect against it fading majorly like that?
Clear coat.
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here is a set done in the red with the 30 flat, they also just came out with urathane flat clear ready to mix n shoot if you want to go over a custom color. you can get a flattening agent to make the dull look but its a pita to mix just right.

KustomShop Flatz
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KustomShop Flatz

here is a link to the paint colors and the shop
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Hey Psyco, I really dont see any fading on your car. I know that last pic is it while being sanded, so what are you talking about?

My car is flat black right now, but it was mainly done out of nessecity... when I got my car, it had had damage fixxed with panels off different cars, so it was 7 different colors. 8 cans of Krylon Flat black later it was all one color. It has the normal rattle can streaks, but all n all it aint to bad. I actually think when I paint my car next spring, Ill get her done flat black.
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Flat black is wicked when done right This is an old pic I have since fixed the fuel lid. I don't think it looks unfinis......!
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i had my hood semi-gloss flat black and i loved it. hard to take care of thoguh and was kinda expensive.
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welli sold the car about 2 months ago but it was a stock steel hood with one of those fiberglass hood scoops bondo'd onto it. (loved it cause it looked different then the ones you can buy) got it from a guy on this site awhile back and for about $100+
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i think flat black looks sweet, i had my camaro flat black for about 6 months or so. but mine was rattle can, just to get the car one color.

loved the look, but wasn't big on the blochiness from the rattle can bomb...
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You might like Jon Deere Blitz Black paint. Quite a popular paint for hot rodders and it stands up to the elements.

Heres some info with links to paintjobs.
John Deere Blitz Black paint - Crankshaft Coalition Wiki

Honda also has a motorcycle paint called asphalt I think, has an optional clear coat kit. More expensive than the john deere tractor paint though.
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I love the flat job on this car. I bugged the dude about it and he said it was some two stage black PPG paint that he never finished. He just sprayed the color coat, no clear.

Its is mute but still has a shiene to it. Just to sweet.



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