greenirocz

So I own a 1991 RS Camaro - and I am in the process of the exterior conversion. Right now I've purchased the hood, louvers, emblems, decals, grill inserts and ther misc interior things.



This was taken before tinting the windows and adding all of the parts.

But I was curious - before I paint this puppy and add all of the decals.

What is the correct placement for the "iroc-z" vinyls that go on the door panels? Some I've seen are close to front tire while others are in back.

Anyone know where they should be on a 91? Any suggestions to what I should do or make sure I do?

Thanks!

maroguy1

No irocs in 91

black84z28-4spd

why do that?....its not an iroc

greenirocz

I am converting to an IROC. I want to put an LS1 in it and swap out the trans and rear differential. Right now - I am working on the exterior.

Not really asking wether or not I should do it.

Asking where should the placement of the decals go what other things do I need to keep in mind while converting this thing!

Thanks....

Mcdamit

I hate Clones...

1985-87 front of the door
1988-89/90 back of the door

greenirocz

Wow - evidently people around here dont take to kindly to this idea...

...why the upset?

Elwood77

Well being that you are going for the newer Z look... The decals would go to the backs of the door. The decal to the front was the first style Iroc.
Here is a great website to help with any other Q's you may have about Iroc styling: Tech Articles - IROC-Z Spotter's Guide

7plagues

iTrader: (1)

cuz your trying to make a base car...v6....and lable it as a v8 with suspension and many other things that separated it from the base.

Poser. i have a firebird...that was a v6 and so on. now its not. i still will not lable it as a trans am or formula.

greenirocz

Thanks Elwood - lots of help! without the bash! :P

greenirocz

So basically - once I drop the V8 in - you'll dig it?

Just clarification for myself...

Elwood77

It's ok to mix and match for a custom look that suits you.. but if you call it an IROC when it's not people will get upset. Not to mention you are calling a V6 Camaro a IROC (even if you plan on putting a LS1 in).
This falls under an apple is an apple... painting a orange red does not change the fact it's still an orange

3.492rs

ITS NOT A IROC!!! and never will be.

greenirocz

Well for now the hood stays...

I think out of all the hoods available on the camaros - the iroc's look the best. So I am still painting it and using it. It took to long to get that thing fitted right. :P

But I wont put on the decals until I get the engine replaced and suspension changed.

After that - On go the decals and down the road I go!

greenirocz

I enjoy comments that have suggestions and reasons - -

This is just flaming...

...Please excuse yourself from this topic.

Elwood77

Have you thought about doing the newer Z28 look with it instead of the IROC look? You have the newer ground effects and what not, all you need is the blisters for the IROC hood and a high rise Z28 spoiler.. just a thought. Not sure if you know the IROC's never came with your style ground effects.

greenirocz

Hmmm

Interesting... I know what your talking about. I have a friend that has those blisters for sale. Do those fit on the stock hoods?

If they do - what else would you need to outfit the z28?

II hope you dont have me heading a different direction. If so - I have alot of parts to sell.

cooltc2004

iTrader: (4)

Personally, if you can back it up, I see nothing wrong with it.

Plus T've always liked IROC's with 91-92 gfx on it, obviously when people put the gfx on IROCs.

Stevo

iTrader: (45)

i know you didnt ask for the feedback but i must, and ill give "constructive" criticism.

Its not an Iroc, in no way shape or form that you change it, will it ever be one. Its a RS camaro. There is nothing wrong with a RS camaro. Add the hood,louvers,wheels,grille and anything else but leave off the Iroc-Z emblems and decals. Be proud that its an RS, hell if ur not shave all the emblems off or make your own or just leave it blank. A camaro is a camaro and id be proud to own any kind of one...but thats just me.

Car looks clean as hell, and i really like the color. Good luck with her

Johns1989irocz

i will neve be an IROC like 3.492rs says, even if you put a V8 in the car, you will still have the vin number to deal with, and if you show the car at shows and say its an IROC, and somebody know how to decode the vin...good luck explaining yourself. My 1985 z28 had the upgraded IROC suspension, but I still would NEVER tell people it was an IROC, even after I bought new stripes for it, they came with the IROC door stickers, I wouldn't put them on, Y? BECAUSE ITS NOT AN IROC, if you want to have an IROC, go buy one, now my 1989 IROC is a true and real IROC and I am proud of it, I didnt have to take a V6 and fool people into thinking it is a real IROC, the money you spent on your "poser" parts and getting an LS1, could have been used to buy A REAL IROC. Sorry if you don't like what I have said, but I don't like people sayin they got an IROC when the VIN# clearly shows a V6. Good luck with the build though

greenirocz

I agree

I thought that's what made it look better than the original irocz. Perhaps I will get a custom decals that read:

"IROC-ZRS" or "IROC-RS"

I want the car to be unique but still original if that make since. But I'm not afraid to make it different.

And will people stop using the word poser. Your all forgetting I have done NOTHING to it yet besides a primered hood. Dont be so defensive about this. Looking for helpful suggestions..

Elwood77

Ya those blisters fit right were the louvers go on the IROC hood. The Z28 had a high rise style rear spoiler and some Z28 emblems were your RS ones are now.. thats about it.

NoItsNotForSale

iTrader: (1)

Do what you want I'm down with clones, but I know mine are real. I used to get mad when I saw cloned 69 GTO Judges but now I see lots of them and thats cool. It does still kinda tick me off when someone asked "Is it a real Judge?" but now I just smile say O Yeah. I have only had a few people ask if my Iroc were "real". If you like the Iroc look go for it.

Johns1989irocz

You still want to use the IROC name....there is nothing wrong with having an RS, just keep the name IROC off the car, and I don't think anyone here will have a problem giving you suggestions. That would be like saying "I have a neon srt4, Im gonna put the VIPER badge on it" no matter what you would do that POS neon will never be a viper.

just my 2 cents, congrats on owning a 3rd gen f-body

Jim85IROC

iTrader: (2)

Why not be happy with what you've got? There's no shame in having an RS.

Shave the logos, and let it's simplicity speak for itself. No reason to fake up your car. Leave that for the posers.

Zrated83

iTrader: (17)

Hey, I am all for you getting the Iroc hood, louvers, and all that other stuff. But I dont agree with putting Iroc decals and emblems on. Its not a real Iroc so why label it as one? Its an RS and thats what it will always be. The vin doesnt lie. Just my

Rich92 RS

iTrader: (16)

Why is everyone saying what he can and can’t do to his car? He specifically said he wasn’t asking if he should do this or not. It’s not your car so get over it; he can do what he wants to his car.

jagevileye21

iTrader: (3)

I know why everyones going so because his clone iroc might look better then your original iroc. Get off of his back its his car. He can do whatever he wants to as long as he is satisfied with having a clone who cares?

Jay

Johns1989irocz

hey RICH92 RS, if you read his original post he askes what he should do or make sure he does, so I think IROC owners have a right to voice their opinions

I have no problem with him wanting to be different, but, IROC's are the top 'o the line camaros (at least in my eyes) I think its great that he wants to build the car to his style, but would you want to own a vette and have some guy put in a v8 into a pinto and say its a VETTE????

jagevileye21

iTrader: (3)

Everyone has a right to voice their opinions thats goes without being said, but when he asked for you guys opinions he didn't ask to be bashed along with it.

I've owned an IROC and if someone pulled up beside me with some and said it was an IROC I wouldn't care because at the end of the day we all know the truth.

JAy

92Three50Z28

DUDE HERE ME OUT!

DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH YOUR CAR YOU WISH!

ITS YOUR CAR...YOU PAID FOR IT! ITS YOUR IDEA! ITS YOU* THAT WILL WILL BE DRIVING IT. GO DO WHATEVER YOU PLEASE>

Stick IROC stickers all over the thing..Where an IROC T shirt when you drive it.

If you like it go for it. Don't let anyone steal your dream.

Nice car by the way!

Camaroguy18

as long as he doesnt claim it to be an iroc when he sells it, I see no fuss over it


...so help me god if you dare try to call it a sport coupe though

82 Iron Duke

iTrader: (21)

"The CAMARO is my shepherd
I shall not want
It maketh me burnout on black pavements
It leadeth me beside busy freeways
It restoreth my soul
It leads me in the path of quickness
For its name's sake

Yea, though I walk through the valley of rice
I shall fear no turbo for torque art with me
Thy rod and thy piston they comfort me

Thou preparest a track befor me
in the presence of mine enemies
Thou hast anointed my bearings with oil
My car overpowers
Surely traction and victory shall follow me
All the days of my life
And I shall dwell in the house of the V8
Forever
Amen."
I love your sig
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Looks and the REAL IROC PACKAGE are a completely different ball game
BTW I would be proud as punch to drive your car the way she sits.

VERTIGO Z28

iTrader: (1)

This is a touchy subject. If you put ALL the parts from ONE IROC on the car and went with the 85-90 GFX and hood from the same car and renounced your membership of the 91-92 Klan and never claimed to have a 91-92RS and convinced me it is an IROC. I suppose it is going to be OK! I catch flack like this all day everyday!

82 Iron Duke

iTrader: (21)

I suppose you could pull the wool over a few peoples eyes, but a horse of the same name is not the same! I may not have the right analogy here!

jagevileye21

iTrader: (3)

but an LS1 compared to a 3.1 or even an TPI engine is a different ball game also.

JAy

VERTIGO Z28

iTrader: (1)

LS1 DOESN'T mean CRAP. My 85 Sport Coupe with SBC ate ls1's everyday of the week with junk v6 suspension. Vette's included. LS1=CRAP!

jagevileye21

iTrader: (3)

I know its possible but talk is cheap. Wheres the proof?

JAy

7plagues

iTrader: (1)

no. that wouldnt make me dig it. what would make me dig it is you making your car something special and unique, not re-lableing it something its not

mw66nova

iTrader: (13)

my car started out as a 1990 RS. i put sportcoupe front and rear bumpers, took off the gfx and shaved the spoiler. it now looks like a 1985 sportcoupe, but it's still labed an RS on the back bumper and front grille. i call it the Rally SportCoupe. i like it that way...and it definitely has the ***** to back up whatever i decide to call it...but i kept with the original theme. that's what i'd like to see, people sticking with the original theme, but making it there own somehow. though i'd hate to see you call a Rally Sport an IROC, cause it's not an IROC...

BADNBLK

iTrader: (11)

Dude, you want an IROC pretty bad from what it appears. Sell your very clean looking RS and purchase an IROC, and paint it whatever color you like. Then you will have the real thing , and not spend a chunk of money making a fake. Just my .

Quick6

Like stated above, as long as he doesn't try to sell it as an IROC, go for it!

92Three50Z28

Hahaa exactly...

RAV3N

CrazyHawaiian has a green 1988 IROC I believe...... Green green, not teal.

mw66nova

iTrader: (13)

hehe, it's also a real iroc...

CrazyHawaiian

If you have a green iroc you are required to do burnouts every time you drive it

RAV3N

And you're supposed to almost crash it, but not really, everytime you take it for a drive


Crazy, show some more of your IROC, this thread got me thinking of your powerslide apparatus

CrazyHawaiian

Hehe my car hates me!!!

Bluejae

No offense, but you guys are starting to sound like the boys with the Mopars....Matching numbers, this is this and that is not this and so on and so fourth. Dude, just do what makes you happy and if anyone asks tell them what you want to tell them. If they really know their stuff then they will be able to tell what your car started out as and what is is transforming into.

xplane

I agree with most of the not rebadging a car but there is a huge difference between takeing a SC and puting Iroc-Z badges and upgrade parts on it than trying to call a pinto a vette or a srt4 a Viper those are totaly different cars, all a Iroc-z is is a SC with added parts. so you could make a SC into an iroc for all realistic performance means.

90-irocdx3

iTrader: (4)

I say make a teal iroc -z clone, i think it might look kind onf neat with the louvers,emblems, and silver iroc-z letters,but no stripes at least with you color car. don't worry about what others think as long as you like it. i have seen plently of iroc clones especially with v=6's so i don't see why it matters.