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People is logic so far from your minds a car is not made anything by stickers and badges I personally feel the exterior of a car should look like the owner wants it to and people shouldnt bitch at them for it but
.......on the other hand if you fab a viper body it doesent matter if you meant to build a camaro its a viper
well happy trails to thee
are there any girls on this site cause it would like be really cool to talk to a female(in person would be cool) and not have to explain every thing I say in depth and they still look at me and say "Whats that"
.......on the other hand if you fab a viper body it doesent matter if you meant to build a camaro its a viper
well happy trails to thee
are there any girls on this site cause it would like be really cool to talk to a female(in person would be cool) and not have to explain every thing I say in depth and they still look at me and say "Whats that"
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i think we'd all agree that the SS name represents something special. im not sayin its more than z-28, my theory works for whatever badge you want. but when i think of SS, i think of the late '60's and 1970 chevelles and novas. there is something awe-inspiring about all musclecars, especially the chevelle to me. now, not everyone has the resources to own one of those. but the respect, the attraction, the awe, will always be with them. so they go buy a chevy of some kind, and make it what they want. and they want to be a part of that mystique that was the SS badge of 1970, or the iroc badge of the 87. so they badge it accordingly. why is that so wrong? they are still respecting the name. they are just another chevy lover like those who have the true SS. the whole idea of getting mad at people for posing was brought about only by those who already had the true versions. why do they have to be that way? why knock on someone who really wants to have what you already do, but cant make it happen? i like being associated with all of you through TGO, because youre all chevy fans, well pontiac too, but this seems to be a chevy topic. the point is, that in itself makes you cool to me. lets have some love for the people who use the wrong chevy badges, because you know they have good taste!
i think we'd all agree that the SS name represents something special. im not sayin its more than z-28, my theory works for whatever badge you want. but when i think of SS, i think of the late '60's and 1970 chevelles and novas. there is something awe-inspiring about all musclecars, especially the chevelle to me. now, not everyone has the resources to own one of those. but the respect, the attraction, the awe, will always be with them. so they go buy a chevy of some kind, and make it what they want. and they want to be a part of that mystique that was the SS badge of 1970, or the iroc badge of the 87. so they badge it accordingly. why is that so wrong? they are still respecting the name. they are just another chevy lover like those who have the true SS. the whole idea of getting mad at people for posing was brought about only by those who already had the true versions. why do they have to be that way? why knock on someone who really wants to have what you already do, but cant make it happen? i like being associated with all of you through TGO, because youre all chevy fans, well pontiac too, but this seems to be a chevy topic. the point is, that in itself makes you cool to me. lets have some love for the people who use the wrong chevy badges, because you know they have good taste!
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You know... as heated and angry as some of you have gotten I really appreciate that no one has blown up.
I just wanted to say that given all the opinions, and the topic at hand I really appreciate the maturity level of this thread, and even though it has gotten a little close, no one has ruined it for everyone and gotten locked
Now.. to be on topic.
I am a pontiac guy, so I really do not have much of an opinion on the whole cloning an SS idea. As Flyinlow and a few others said, it makes a lot more of a statement to have an extremely fast RS then a fake SS. Being underdog is best, and being different is even better.
I mean... I plan on putting a 350 and 6 speed into my car, but I am still highly considering putting a Firebird 3.1 sticker on it. Because nothing is better then being a sleeper... not even being an SS.
I just wanted to say that given all the opinions, and the topic at hand I really appreciate the maturity level of this thread, and even though it has gotten a little close, no one has ruined it for everyone and gotten locked
Now.. to be on topic.
I am a pontiac guy, so I really do not have much of an opinion on the whole cloning an SS idea. As Flyinlow and a few others said, it makes a lot more of a statement to have an extremely fast RS then a fake SS. Being underdog is best, and being different is even better.
I mean... I plan on putting a 350 and 6 speed into my car, but I am still highly considering putting a Firebird 3.1 sticker on it. Because nothing is better then being a sleeper... not even being an SS.
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I mean... I plan on putting a 350 and 6 speed into my car, but I am still highly considering putting a Firebird 3.1 sticker on it. Because nothing is better then being a sleeper... not even being an SS.
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I found in the Year One magazine some vintage camaro emblems. I was thinking that after I drop in a 350, and getting the SS hood, I could find some vintage RS/SS emblems. Anyone have any clues of where they can be found?
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SS was engine stuff originally, RS was the appearance package with hidden headlights on Camaros. Z28 was the package RPO that designated the 302 and roadrace suspension/brakes that were used to homologate it for Trans Am roadracing. SS/RS was the engine and appearence together. And this is a true SS
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You know these cars just dont look or sound right as an ss c'mon guys GM gave us a one of a kind performance model Z28 and we dont have to share it with impala's and crap like that.
the best part of this is Ill never be driving and see a Z28 cavalier
the best part of this is Ill never be driving and see a Z28 cavalier
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First off, I just want to say that tpiroc's car is way f*cking badass! I don't like the idea of putting SS badges on a thirdgen either. But, here is my situation. I am in the process of putting the gfx, wheels, tail lights, hood, and interior from my '91 RS onto my '84 Z28. Which badges should I use? I think I'm gonna keep the RS badges since they are already on the gfx even though technically the car itself is a Z28. What do y'all think?
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First off, I would like to commend everyone who has posted in this thread for being able to have a rational discussion about this. So many times, disagreements like this end up getting out of control and locked by mods.
Now for my 2 cents.
I am very proud of my car. It came stock with a dumpy little 305, a horrible suspension, and an exhaust system that is barely fit for a Geo Metro.. but it's mine. I'm working hard on it and it's definitely taking a long time but it is finally getting there. I am in the process of doing the suspension and exhaust upgrades now, and next spring it will be receiving a new motor and tranny. Yet still it is my RS.
For me it's a lot more admirable for one to have a built up RS rather than an RS that's modified to the appearance and quality standards of another car. (Especially one that never existed)
Just like my friends and family, my car has a personality unique to itself. It will always be an RS, whether or not it is costumed as something else. Think about if I wore around a Britney Spears mask and had a sex change, would I in turn be Britney Spears? I am not saying that it's wrong to change your cars and call them by a different name, but in the end it is what it is.
I would like to say though, that the SS clones that I have seen here are really great looking cars. I really would never get upset about something so trivial. In the end it is your car and all that matters is whether you like it or not. In my case, I will be more proud when my RS spanks the hell out of a good majority of other cars on the road. It will teach people not to judge a book by it's cover.
My point is that it’s fun working on these cars, and making them better than they were. You really do have to do what is right for you.
Now for my 2 cents.
I am very proud of my car. It came stock with a dumpy little 305, a horrible suspension, and an exhaust system that is barely fit for a Geo Metro.. but it's mine. I'm working hard on it and it's definitely taking a long time but it is finally getting there. I am in the process of doing the suspension and exhaust upgrades now, and next spring it will be receiving a new motor and tranny. Yet still it is my RS.
For me it's a lot more admirable for one to have a built up RS rather than an RS that's modified to the appearance and quality standards of another car. (Especially one that never existed)
Just like my friends and family, my car has a personality unique to itself. It will always be an RS, whether or not it is costumed as something else. Think about if I wore around a Britney Spears mask and had a sex change, would I in turn be Britney Spears? I am not saying that it's wrong to change your cars and call them by a different name, but in the end it is what it is.
I would like to say though, that the SS clones that I have seen here are really great looking cars. I really would never get upset about something so trivial. In the end it is your car and all that matters is whether you like it or not. In my case, I will be more proud when my RS spanks the hell out of a good majority of other cars on the road. It will teach people not to judge a book by it's cover.
My point is that it’s fun working on these cars, and making them better than they were. You really do have to do what is right for you.
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Yeah they didnt make SS in 3rd gens. But if they want to make em SS then let them do it so they can be happy. I kinda do dissagree that its kinda a stupid idea, but whatever floats your boat
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Just like my friends and family, my car has a personality unique to itself. It will always be an RS, whether or not it is costumed as something else. Think about if I wore around a Britney Spears mask and had a sex change, would I in turn be Britney Spears? I am not saying that it's wrong to change your cars and call them by a different name, but in the end it is what it is.
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Originally posted by Dante93GTZ
As someone else said, the VIN will always tell the truth. I think it makes more of a statement if you have a super fast, mean as hell RS than if you have all of that stuff on an RS and call it an SS.
As someone else said, the VIN will always tell the truth. I think it makes more of a statement if you have a super fast, mean as hell RS than if you have all of that stuff on an RS and call it an SS.
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Originally posted by 87CIZ
ya know according to uhaul there is a thirdgen ss? seriously if you need to rent a car trailer theres the rs z28 iroc and ss and apparenly the ss is the only one that will fit on the trailer. i kid you not go to the website...
ya know according to uhaul there is a thirdgen ss? seriously if you need to rent a car trailer theres the rs z28 iroc and ss and apparenly the ss is the only one that will fit on the trailer. i kid you not go to the website...
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
The SS could be an appearance option
The SS could be an appearance option
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Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
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Originally posted by BirdsofPray
Nooo...not this thread again!
Nooo...not this thread again!
Here's what came with the SS package.
Custom Hand Painted Pinstriping
Special Effect Rear Spoiler
Sheiled Sporty Side Pipes-Color Matched
Fuel-Inj Logo if 4 or 6 cyl or to match cui.
Optionally you could get:
Crager Protech 15" Custom Wheels
14" Leather Steering Wheels
European Wood Dash with Glove Box
Burlewood or Aluminum Dash
Now try to find one of these rare Camaro's and then you at least got something style wise.
For those that don't believe me check with Chevy Ken over on the History Board or at Adminstrator@ChevyWorld.net
As far as my own SS Clone goes. I really did it as a tribute to my 69 SS-Pace Car that got stolen and stripped. If I still had this car it would be worth more than both of my third gens combined, but maybe not as much fun. They (the dirty bastard thieves) took everything and when I got my '86 I just had to do something to spice her apperance up. Now that I have a new project in the 25th Anniversary RS I will leave the badging as is(25th got to mean something, right) and let it's increased performance(new 350tpi being dropped as I write) speak for itself and for those that may want to try me. Sleeper is the plan here except for the SLP headers. I really have had very few say anything about the '86 SS badging. I do feel that NO ONE should sell a fake and not tell. the general public don't know and many fakes are passed off on ebay everyday. It is a shame.
The SS vs Z28 thing is a matter of personal preference. Which one was top of the line? Probably the IROC but the 91 Z28 sure appears to be more aggresive-at least looking at her. Each car has it's own place in history from SS to Berlinetta to IROC to Z28 to the never(unless you got that Choo-Choo car) was SS. As long as you got the title you can have your own opinion on what to do with your car. It is just like those that keep their cars completley stock vs those that modify. There is no right or wrong.
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just outta the blue (Ive always wanted to know), but isnt the SC basically an RS before they made 3rd gen RS??? ....if not, what were the differences?
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Originally posted by DigitalMonarch0
Think about if I wore around a Britney Spears mask and had a sex change, would I in turn be Britney Spears?
Think about if I wore around a Britney Spears mask and had a sex change, would I in turn be Britney Spears?
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Can you sing?
Can you sing?
Although I can lip-synch pretty well.
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Originally posted by 86NiteRider
Yes this subject comes up every few months. I happened to save a thread from 2/7/2001 from the History Board. There actually was a third gen SS. . . .
Yes this subject comes up every few months. I happened to save a thread from 2/7/2001 from the History Board. There actually was a third gen SS. . . .
Very sorry about the Pace Car as well. Those are so gorgeous.
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Originally posted by Camaroguy18
just outta the blue (Ive always wanted to know), but isnt the SC basically an RS before they made 3rd gen RS??? ....if not, what were the differences?
just outta the blue (Ive always wanted to know), but isnt the SC basically an RS before they made 3rd gen RS??? ....if not, what were the differences?