benoit454

hello eveyrone i posted on the nethirdgen forum thing abotu some louvers and got alot of neg opinions on using louvers on back of my car such as theyre junk they will blow off they went out w/ bradys n patridge family

what do u all think do u like the louvers on third gens?

preffer no louvers?

or how about the gts rear window deflector?

called solar wing 2 i beleive

which do yall preffer or like?

and have ya ever seen louvers painted to match car?
if so like em better painted or black?

and have u ever seen em striped to match stripes on car?

Wootah

80% of the people dont like em its a personal preference.


i dislike them very much. way too 80's

67 Camaro 88

Few cars have looked good with them... Not many.

They have to fit the car and be perfectly clean to look even decent in my opinion.

It'd probably look like a*s on my 88 Camaro, but on a black IROC... might look ok.


-Bud

MetalliCamaroRS

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I prefer no louvers myself. Just tint the window.

GarageToys

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Yeah, just tint the hatch glass. Louvers make our cars look really dated. My car had louvers when I bought it and they rattled really badly too.

Does anyone even still make louvers for our cars? Or louvers in general? I never see cars with louvers anymore.

Midnight Sun

On black cars I think louvers looks sweet.

But on any other color... eh.


I hated them forever untill I gave my car a nice black rattle can job. And damn the louvers just help the flow.


But once I shave my handles, those bad boys are coming off.

benoit454

yea they had em on mine 2 and i neded em to cover up were scracthed and stuff cuz man i tint my window dark them scratches show up like sore thumbs and mainyl the focus of my car is to point towards the older ones w/ different design keys fomr past camaros u all wil see once i get it done mainly lets say stripes

louvers on fenders and or rear window and rear spoiler the 5 inch basically liek hawks has that kind thing pointing towards older ones

w/ my stereo that proly make em rattle worse lol but i think theyd look aight

i focus on bein apart n different fomr eveyr other camaro and or other fbody 3rd gen i see so more then likely as i said if i can find em n price is right theyll go on id said i loved the 2nd gen f bodies so that smainyl why its pointin more towards the old ones

at 1st i thought louvers looked liek an armadillio but now that i really ned em im acepting them plus its different

i dont think anyone makes them anymore new accept for jc whitney has them thats y i was trying to find ppl on here n stuf that had em n so i could put em on mine n stuf cuz jc whitney wants 264 for em n hawks has em i think for 150 plus 75 shipping or 25 i mean

and had some ppl write me but never got back w/ me on the shipping so oh well lol

labrat

Never liked them myself

posbird87

meh... good on some, azz on others

25THRSS

no louvers

camarogirl18

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alot of people on here dislike them..i partially agree with them,some louvers just dont look good on certain colors of cars,however i actually like them..i think they look really good on black colored cars but the choice is totally yours!

scottmoyer

I've replied to these before and I'll do it again.

I like the louvers on 3rd gens. I have 'em on mine. Too many people on these boards say they look too 80's. All I can say is wake up people and look at what you drive!!!

Some styles look better than others. The factory set offers sleak lines and a better shape. The Cragar brand were cheap and rattled. The 3 piece look looks horrible, IMO. A factory set can't fly off the car if they are installed correctly. Every set I have had requires either a mounting strip that bolted to the back glass with the window bolts and the louvers bolted to that or there are clips that surround the glass frame and the louvers lock on to that. My set doesn't rattle, sqeak or anything else. People don't like them because they require regular maintenance. I lift mine and clean the glass regularly.

Since this is an opinion thread, I'll also mention that I don't like the window tint on 3rd gens. My reason is as dated as the cars. During the 80's, window tint was not as prevalant as it is today so the louvers did their job. I also like the raised white letter tires and the no cup holder feature. I eat and drink at home or in a restaurant, but I DRIVE my car.

As for does anybody make them anymore, I don't think so for our cars, but they are now available again for the Mustang since they brought back the Mach 1.

blyth18md

^looks nice on your car. i think they look good on darker colored cars

demicon

They can look very nice on the right colored cars.

The only thing I have against them is their ability to etch into the windows and of course the rattle alot of them have.

The maintenance aspect I would have no problem with, as long as the end result was them looking good on the car.

Good point regarding the "Look at what you drive" comment. True, many of us forget that these cars are from the 80's era. Back when pink spandex and neon green was cool... on guys that were considered hard rockers.

Its only natural for the car to look the era it came from....

"Your 2nd gen bird looks too 70's ish.. "

:lala:

The only louvers I don't like are the really massive ones that make the car start to look like a reptile of some kind.

Demicon

Abubaca

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OK, well since Scott likes 'em....now everyone likes 'em!! J/K

Scott, you're right about the factory louvers lookin' good, and yeah, the 3 piece looks crappy. I still prefer NO louvers,or tint....although tint helps keep the heat down a TON, in the summer!

The car looks dated? I'm not even sure how to answer that! Some people are holding on to the dream that our cars look new I guess.

scottmoyer

The only thing I have against them is their ability to etch into the windows and of course the rattle alot of them have.

The maintenance aspect I would have no problem with, as long as the end result was them looking good on the car.


The factory louvers have a rubber strip that runs from the top to the bottom on both sides right at the curve. This strip keeps the metal from resting directly on the glass and rattling. The rubber seems to leave a mark on the glass, but it is easily removed with a good window cleaner.

OK, well since Scott likes 'em....now everyone likes 'em!! J/K

And why are you being different?

benoit454

all of you have great points mine was installed w/ 2 moutnig points that they bolted to on top and are supposed to lift up for cleanin which aint bad window gets dirty clean it!! lol

after lookin at a set tho that is uncommon the 3 piece w/ the sides and the center i kinda lena towards it

and do agreee that some look liek an armadilio w/ em close together n big

also some ive seen do have the rubber around them to keep em fomr rattling

and yes i know al too well they love to etch glass mine sure did lol!!!

just too bad mine doesnt have them. werent on there when i got it workin on gettin a set tho n prolly 3 piece n they wil be painted to match i think lol maybe just black

very true tho they are fomr the 80's and i lean towards the era theme or the past era theme and not alot of new age

altho the front is goin to be new age like billet grille or mesh and older front fende rlouvers maybe

older spoiler, louvers,

tailights liek new w/ covers headlight covers to which is new age

new age system and electronics

so kinda blends w/ all

old style cragar s/s's

low pro new age tires just about eveyrhtign is goin to go w/ and blend agge gens basically

kretos

no louvers persoanlly i think they should be banned but what can you do?

hwcoll95

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i need ,my car had them when new,but of course gone when i got the car,the rear glass is already etched,and the window trim has the paint removed marks from the mounting tabs,i think they look great on thirds,esp IROCs to flow with the hood louvers??beside you're not supposed to tint a rear window with defroster??

br()bert

you can tint a rear window with defroster. no louvers imo.

onebluemcm

Well I vote yes to louvers too. I'm in the group that thinks they go well on certain car and not others but that they do look good on these 80's cars for the most part. I do think they might look better on Camaros vs 'Birds - that's a picky opinion of mine though.

Mine are faded and don't look as good right now for that reason - If anyone has some quality tips for me as to how to approach refinishing them, please say so or e-mail me.

But I say they're a cool touch of the 80's for third gens. Thumbs up!

onebluemcm

Meant to attach this to the previous post but screwed it up in the edit - Doh!!

onebluemcm

Meant to attach this to the previous post but screwed it up in the edit - Doh!!

Look familiar Scott? Aside from the year difference the resemblance is uncanny!!

EDIT, Take 29 - I'm an Idiot.............. Gotta get the hang of attachments - LOL

Abubaca

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Yeah, but Scott's only has like 7 miles, on it.... ...or something ridiculous like that!!!!

scottmoyer

I'm up to 11,500 miles. The unfortunate thing is I don't have a trailer for it anymore. The car is in FL and I am in VA. I need to get it here, so it will be driven. Then there's all these shows I need to get to......Carlisle, SuperFest, etc....The miles will start rackin' up now.

onebluemcm

Yeah, yeah, I know there are some big differences between my car and Scott's - mileage, totally different interior, year etc. But they do look prety similar too - just a kind of neat coincidence.

Scott, got a question for ya regarding the color of the pinstriping and decaling. I understand that your interior is a light gray; what color are the IROC badges on the doors and the colored stripe of the pinstriping - a gray tone, or gold?? Hard to tell from the pics. Just wondering cause I thought they put the gold with the tan interiors exclusively - but then I thought, what color striping/decals would they put with the gray???

Oh, also just wondering where 'bouts you are in VA?
K

Abubaca

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Scott, your Iroc is Silver/black with Grey, correct?

The gold wheels and stripes did automatically come with the Medium Beechwood Deluxe cloth or Light Brown leather interior. I don't see why you couldn't have specified one without the other, however I've never seen it. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist though.

...that's at least for the 89....(probably 88-90)

scottmoyer

Sorry it took so long to reply. I'm traveling and I don't work on this computer everyday.

My car has the medium grey custom interior with leather. The striping is silver and black. I originally thought the gold package came with the tan interior, but I have seen some cars with the mixed combination. The majority of the cars with gold package have gold accent rims, tan interior and gold decals. Here's a good pic that will show the colors better.

UmmaGumma

I took the louvers off my car before I even left the guy's house I purchased it from. The guy looked at me funny and asked what I was doing. I asked him where the nearest dumpster was and he pointed.

Just my personal preference though.

87CIZ

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well i guess im kinda biased i like them! they were on the car when i bought it and they grew on me

Chuck!

Please, no

onebluemcm

UmmaGumma-
It's totally a "should-a, would-a, could-a" thing at thins point, but buddy - there are enough people around who want louvers you might have been able to sell them for a pretty price.........

Scott -
Very cool - the latest pic does show the colors well and the silver is now clear to my eye. I wish my ride was set up that way because my options for new wheels would be broader!!

K

19doug90

heh my buddy bought an 89 and it had the louvers on it. One day within the first week he came home from school to see his dad standing by his car taking them off. look like a freeking armadillo not a sports car.

nolanr0413

u can have the louvers if u have a ****** . only kiddin, on some cars they look ok and others they dont.thier is a very fine line between lookin good and looking bad with louvers.

UmmaGumma

onebluemcm - I hear what you're saying. In fact, the thought of selling them had crossed my mind until I saw them. They were pretty beat and rattling all over the place. I didn't think anybody would want them anyway.

I honestly have to say that the only car that they look halfway decent on would be a black one. Maybe silver. Not Ultra Blue Metallic as it was in my case...

Jetmeck

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I would vote no now, that said.......I've got a set on my '87 TA am wanting to sell, great shape.

Have no idea what their worth , think I actually paid something like 200 for them. Will sell dirt cheap and have connections at FEDEX to ship cheap, will pack well and like I said CHEAP, cause we are likely the only group that might be interested.

Make an offer via email and thx.

Bill E.

benoit454

yea guys my cars goin to be silver and black and front windows wil be tinted so either black ones would go well or maybe goin w/ silver

thing that gets me n prob i face is the originals looks like and armadillo

plastic 3 pieces i dunno kinda looks odd since sides lay flush then louvers pop up in middle kinda looks liek cat hair standin up on back of its neck or persons something like that so im not really sure but wil be goin w/ em on mine

proly try get set of both for it n then try em out see which looks best on mine

workin on gettin set fomr 2 ppl off this board already and another guy

so maybe ill get em soon

but hell if u was goin throw yurs away id took em lol to try n if they turned out junk n was to awefully bad id threw em away lol

87CIZ

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i think the 3 pieces are horrible mine were from the dealer and i like them but i seen a firebird at work with the 3 piece and i shuddered at how horendous they actually are. Those my friends are for those with ******s

benoit454

yea thats why i knida lean towards the factory ones that have aluminum center and plastic end pieces so theyre 3 piece but w/ metal center or solid one piece plastic rather then the stick on 3 piece plastic type

so mainly tryin to find some that are factory kind

just waitin on word from the owners about em

GTA-SPD

I personally don't really care for them of Firebirds. I think they look pretty good on Camaros though. As for paint them to match, that depends on the color. My brother's match his car and I really like them, but I've seen others that I hated. My preference for a Firebird is dark *** window tint and no louvers. Camaro's can go either way, but who cares what others think, it's your car. Do what you want to. If you build it to suit others, you'll find that it's never quite what you want. Do it your way, and tell nay sayers to pound sand if they bitch about it.

scottmoyer

Dante93GTZ

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Uhhh.........................

No, to both the louvers and the GTS SolarWing. The solarwing looks TERRIBLE on thirdgens!

black88cam

Depends on the car, they need to painted the color of the car
one vote yes louvers

benoit454

man that car just looks awesome!!!!!

and thoose louvers fit perfectly alot i seen either set way up off car in back or front or are really close together like an armidillo

wered u get em at?

brodyscamaro

side shots always make them look "ok". from behind though i think you get the truth.

87WS6

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Nothing should go on the back windows of a thirdgen ever. Everything looks retarded, ******* or just plain tacky. Outside of wheels and a few other basic things our cars look totally fine stock and don't need a whole lot.

It's just my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

BirdsofPray

I used to be a strong supporter of window louvers, but recently I've seen far too many Camaros with them on - and I must admit they do look a bit unsightly. Most say they look "too 80s", which (considering the decade in which most of our cars were made) is an absolutely ridiculous thing to say.

A better way to put it is that window louvers simply haven't aged well. The only car I believe they still look bloody gorgeous on is the Delorean. Man, that's an awesome car.

NEEDforSPEED

Louvers, :nono:
they look like crap on any cars, the only car that can really get away with them is are 70 AMX

85 T/A WS6

WTH is a IROC-Z-GTA ??

nolanr0413

nope, louvers blow, the only way you can have louvers is if you have a mecham trans am with black and gold two tone .and then they have to be three piece ones.