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Old 09-17-2003, 03:26 PM
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Backing up an agressive look..........

You hear it all the time
"If you get SS decals you better back it up"
"If you have a large hood, it better be covering a fast engine"

Well here is my question:

Will the following engine be enough to back up the look of my car, as you can see i have done alot of mods to make the car look agressive, or should i plan more mods?

350 TPI
Hooker Headers
MSD Ignition
Air Foil
CAI w/ K&N Filter
Removed AIR system

T-56 Transmission
4th Gen posi rear
3.23 Gears

And yes, a 4th Gen rear will require me to get new rims......so don't gripe about the current ones.....

I have also planned for some suspension mods(STB, SFC) and also have already done weight reduction mods to save some weight.....

Weigh in with comments or other opinions.......
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im going to go with a definite no. Your car is running 14.5's stock and the only speed mod you really have is headers not to mention 3.23's in a t-56 (assuming its an lt1 t-56) is going to make your car a dog off the line. Plus you have a bunch of stuff on your car that is going to make it heavier like stereo system, wing etc. So youre probably going to be running about 15 flats. At that speed a mustang gt should have no problem beating you. Also you cant really say " is my car fast enough?" tell us how fast you want your car to be and well tell you what you need to do to get there. Id also probably move this to the engine forum because its not appearance related.
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Think about your engine/drivetrain mods like you did your apperence mods, put as much (or more) creativity, time, effort and money into your performance mods and you'll have a car that backs up the looks.

Your car is something that looks out of the ordinary, but your engine and drivetrain that you plan on getting are fairly common, and not really all that fast. Sure it's faster then what you have now, but it still doesn't match the aggresive look of your car.

Also, I don't know everything about gearing but wouldn't you want something higher then 3.23's with a 6-speed

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You know what I think? Who cares what everybody else thinks. With the combo you'll have, you'll be fine. You won't be the baddest thing on the street but who cares. The only thing that matters is that you like your car and it makes you happy.
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Yup, builld it however you want it to be, but IMO why not go with a higher HP setup...
At least putting down 300+ to the wheels
Old 09-17-2003, 07:29 PM
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did you ever get the body and paint fixed by your gas tank
Old 09-17-2003, 07:34 PM
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Its more than you have now, so I'd say if you have to money for that then go for it. You can always do a cam and heads or something later. Its a lot better than a 305 TBI
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go with 4.10 gears in the 4th gen rear end, if your doing an engine swap you should put bigger runner and and an intake, they can give you more hp. def 4.10 with the t56 b/c the 6 th gear is like .68
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you will be slower then a stock 350. How fast do you think is enough to back up what youve got on the outside?
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no i think he'll be faster then a stock 350. considering my brothers 91 z28 350 tpi ran a 14.4 STOCK, only mods where k&n's, air foil and blaster coil and flowmaster cat back.

now if flyin's goin to add headers and a full exuast, and does anything to the 350 before its dropped in, and then add the t-56 tranny (and shifting good) and if he goes with the 4.10's like nolanr mentioned and when he gets new rims , more then likly they'll be lighter then the chrome steel rims he has, i think he'll be low 14's mid 13's with traction and good shifting. but thats also if he does other things to the 350 thenwhat he says.
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honestly, no.

wouldnt even be close..

but speaking of TPI..... stock TPI is not a performance intake by anymeans.... but a stock TPI harness and computer with either a custom multiport FI manifold, or a aftermarket manifold that was painted to compliment the color of your car would look cool.....
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no i think he'll be faster then a stock 350. considering my brothers 91 z28 350 tpi ran a 14.4 STOCK, only mods where k&n's, air foil and blaster coil and flowmaster cat back.

now if flyin's goin to add headers and a full exuast, and does anything to the 350 before its dropped in, and then add the t-56 tranny (and shifting good) and if he goes with the 4.10's like nolanr mentioned and when he gets new rims , more then likly they'll be lighter then the chrome steel rims he has, i think he'll be low 14's mid 13's with traction and good shifting. but thats also if he does other things to the 350 thenwhat he says.
Umm i had assumed we were going based on what he had posted not made up stuff sure if he also did headers cam full exhaust (he just said hes doing headers). Okay youre taking a stock 350 and adding exhaust, if you shift well and have better gearing then what you posted youll be a little better off plus whatever the headers add (maybe .2 or .3 off your et). Then you said you did some weight saving stuff but in the pics you have a stereo, wing, and i think some interior junk which is going to cancel the "weight saving" stuff and then probably add a bit more weight. All you really have is a slightly heavier 350 with exhaust. Once you have good gears which you have to get the 3.23's wont cut it then youll also have gearing....my camaro with 3.73's in my 700r-4, shift kit, and exhaust should run about 14 flats and id expect you could dip into the high 13's with good shift work.
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instead of a stock tpi get some SLP large tubes, SS them with a ported plenum and take a few more .1's off...instead of the stock runners.
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what's in the longblock setup....anywork done to the shortblock?

depending on your area 300 rwhp is a decent setup. around here it allows you to park and watch the big dogs where 400 rwhp cars are on every street corner and 9 sec. street cars are just as common.

be reasonable with your budget but be smart. 300 rwhp is a good reliable number and you can still get decent gas mileage. with all the newer imports running close to that you'll need it just to keep up. definately go with a taller gear though. at least a 3.73 with a manual.....

good luck.

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I say you set a power goal first, then decide what you want to do to reach that goal. The L98 is definately a step up from the L03, but even with a L98 you will find yourself wanting to spend more money for more power. Keep in mind that there are alot of cost effective mods for our 1st generation blocks. When swapping motors, you have the option of using a completely stock motor (and build up from there), or you can build a lightly modified motor on the side for a little more up front. In the long run, the mildly built motor from the start might be more cost effective. If the stock L98 will meet your power goal, then that would be the way to go. But if the stock L98 will not meet your power goal, then you need to compare the cost of modding the L98 to meet the power goal vs the cost of building one up from the start. As an example, if the stock TPI will not give you the flow you need, why buy a TPI motor? It would make more sense to get a 1st gen block/head combo with no intake and start out with a StealthRam or Modified LT1 intake from the beginning. It will come out cheaper in the long run than buying stock stuff and then upgrading from there. Same thing goes for the heads. Just my .02 from my experiences.
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first off you need to have a fast car...and second you need to..................

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Originally posted by bluedude22
first off you need to have a fast car...and second you need to...................
You have a PM.

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If you talk to any1 on here like that again you'll be put on probation, do it again and you'll be banned. You can have an opinion without saying it the way you did. That was unecessary. Mods you know how to contact me if needed.

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well heres what you should do

1. ditch the 305 TBI
2. build a 350, throw a HSR on top
3. back it up with a beefy tranny, a t56 is good, maybe a built 700R4/TH350 if youre going for all out drag...
4. throw in a set of axles and some 4.11s
5. stuff some massive mickeys under your wheel wells
6. send me about $6k so i can do the same

nuff said
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6. send me about $6k so i can do the same
i like that one
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you just need a honduh V-Tech to back up the looks of your car.
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and dont forget to cover your car with stickers its been know to add 25+ rwhp when you do that!
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and dont forget to cover your car with stickers its been know to add 25+ rwhp when you do that!
dont forget to put a staircase over your decklid!

oh wait, that would actually help performance on our cars...hmmm...better put it on the hood instead...
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I've got a 12 second hood on my 15.7 sec car.
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I've not gotten a raft of crap for my SS emblems, and oddly not "challenged" on the street at all. My selection of the SS emblems was not to advertise "I'm a bad mo", it was really more of a cosmetic thing. I wanted the style, color, and "fresh/new"-ness of the '03 emblems to go with the '03 rims (and paint, + other exterior mods). However I do feel my car is worthy of being dubbed an SS as it is/was an IROC. Everyone has their own idea of what the SS means, old school guys will say "It means a big block and 11 seconds", heck nowadays GM isn't say too much with the SS package anyway. What I am saying is this; if you're thinking about them to say "This car will break your neck", then yeah, you'd want to "back the sack" up, but if you're thinking "Damn those '03 SS Silverado emblems look pimp on tpiroc's ride!", then go for it!

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Spend what you got and if it aint fast enuff save up and spend more. Flyinlow you only live once and the car dont go with ya. Have fun with it while you have it!
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