25THRSS

I agree, i personally think its degrading as well

Benny

A Viper would beat 98% of the cars on this site.

25THRSS

vipers definitely are not slow, but you also dont need a v10 viper engine to be fast either

dans82bird

screw the viper v10... v12!!!

http://falconerengines.com/prod04.htm

FyreLance

91Zman

degrading a dime a dozen '89 RS.

FLYNLOW92rs

iTrader: (53)

So after reading this post i have concluded the following.....

Vipers are now slow
You can actually degrade a 89 RS(by making it faster)
It's hard to understand why you would want a V10 in a thirdgen(obviously not for speed)
You are now downgrading by adding 2 cylinders to an engine(appearantly a V8 has an advantge over a V10)

SeeYa

Lol, If you detuned enough to need moding, and used magical GM aluminum you could change their logic.

CAMp3RO

yeah, i'm confused by some of the posts in here too. vipers are no way shape or form slow. a viper is my dream car. swapping from another brand is bad? how about you people with the ford rear ends? come on now. the viper v10 is an awesome motor. just because its not GM does not mean its crap. i'm a big fan of domestic cars. i love camaros and firebirds. and i like the small block chevy because it is a cheap motor to get power out of. but to say anything else is crap is just stupid. congrats should be goin out to the guy for attempting something like this. i also think there is some jelousy goin around in here too......

91Zman

Amen dude. By their logic nobody can customize their cars with anything anymore. People have been useing different brand engines for years,it's nothing new. Ohhh the blasphemy

Zepher

iTrader: (1)

You no doubt have looked at the 2JZ-GTE motors too then. Did you know that for $150 you can get a bellhousing adaptor so that you can slap any GM RWD tranny onto it. I've been learning the ins and outs of this motor for the past 18 months.
Here we are putting the dual flex-a-lite fans in.

robbob

Why not just put in a 502 ram jet , 510 hp, which is more than the v10 and sounds alot meaner.
just my.02 worth.

dans82bird

black84z28: yeah ok bud, try swapping in that hunk of jap iron :sillylol: your a tool and I bet you'll never do it. You'll end up selling your car and disappearing from the boards..... :lala:

92Transam

Im sure he will pass just fine from the sniffer, but from an inspection I guess not, I do how ever know those V10s out of the viper run very very clean.

92Transam

Umm WTF Viper's are not slow at all they will run 12's stock and the venom 800 TT can do 0-60 in 2.4!

92Transam

A viper is my dream car Ive been researching them for years now, and I saw an engine on ebay once for about 5 grand thought about this swap a long time ago to an old Trans am we have around here; but nooooooo everyone here has to wine about it. The viper was orignaly just a design exercise to test new car building methods and they wanted to make a car that would go from 0 to 100 and back to 0 in 15 seconds. I just hate to hear all of you say such mean things about a viper and about how doing that swap would ruin the car. Oh and why have non of you gone to read the the forum that this was orignaly posted on with all the info on the car and why he did the swap! This motor swap was not done for power as the one we pulled out was a small block stroker and lacking none of the power of a stock Viper Motor,not to mention cost of building a SBC, pennys on the dollar.My Son and i are very close and share a deep Viper passion,and go to all shows and events together.At this point in his life a Viper is not practical or economical for him.Also I am a firm believer in values and working hard for what you have,I would not be much of a father to allow him to have one at this point in his life,this is just a unique project.oh yeah,blue with white stripes will be next

25THRSS

A camaro is a chevy and should have a chevy engine in it. A good ol v8 is all part of the legend and mystique of these cars. Its just not the same with anything else. Have you ever heard a viper? In my opinion they sound like crap, they dont even come close to the sound of a healthy chevy v8. Sure they're fast, but so can a v8. Ide much rather have a stroked small block than a viper engine in my camaro. If you'd rather have a viper engine than get a viper or a dodge. For years and years the GM v8 has been part of america, its pretty much what started the whole muscle car craze. If it werent for that engine none of us would even be interested in our cars. A camaro should always have a chevy v8 in it, its just not a camaro without it in my opinion.

91Zman

Yeah? So what! A Viper is a VIPER and a '89 RS is just an '89 RS :lala:

25THRSS

exactly, so why put a viper engine in it?????

91Zman

Something different for a change?Originality? Who knows? but it's unique and it's cool to me. It's not the usual boring engine swap that you always see that's for sure!

C-Dawg

2JZ-GTE is a good engine....if a Japanese engine was going in the car it would be a Supra Engine....maybe a 1JZ tho..but of course im not....

FyreLance

Why?

Ooooh the shame, instead of having the original American V8, it'll have....a different...American...V-10..... from another domestic car known for speed. How terrible! And it'll be unique instead of just like every other dime-a-dozen RS. Sacrilege! And maybe, just maybe, it'll be faster than it was before. Unclean, unclean! And the guy will probably get a lot more attention because he actually did the work to fit a Viper motor in his car which you never see. Blasphemy! Oh and we can't have an engine from a Dodge in a Chevy, that's just horrible to use something from another car ( ::cough:: Ford rear ends, LT1 and T-56 swaps ::cough:: ). I'd better sell my Pontiac Firebird, cuz I have a Chevy small-block in it.

You ==>:hail: <== Chevy

Geez, get off of Chevy's nuts.

91Zman

LOL.
Quick! Somebody..do the sign of the cross..this post is teh evil lol

FyreLance

:sillylol:

fast86z28

I think its pretty sweet, I consider myself to be brand loyal but I also like seeing different and unique things, this is definately different and unique. You can pick up 1 of 10000000 89 rs's for next to nothing so why get all butt hurt about a car thats not very valuable and there is tons of. Some people are too narrow minded and need to accept different things.

91Zman

EXACTLY!

bigals87z28

all im sayin is... sweet chit man... the V-10 looked better in that 68 Charger that was in PHR... and the best car/engine combo ive seen is a 426 hemi in a Bettle.. and no, the hemi was not in the back.. was in the front.. i think they needed wheelie bars for the front of the car so it wouldnt tip over.... I like the V-10..but f*ck the idea of the cobra engine... id rather go LS6 with a nice 6spd, and tear 03 cobras a new ahole... but thats me (and probably a lot of other members) As for the jap stuff... i dont know enuff to say anything.. when i see jap engines.. i just seen numbers and letters... at first, i thought u were talkin about my new cell phone... but it turned out to be supra engine... well i got a new picture in my "WHAT THE F*CK IS THAT" folder.. it took 1st place over this pic....

EDIT: nevermind.. this still wins

FyreLance

Photoshop.

bigals87z28

photoshop?.....

TransAm12sec

ahh thats scary

RSFreak

Vipers are killer, no doubt about it, but I could never put a Mopar engine in my Camaro. Why not go with a Lingenfelter LS1? Its still an exotic motor for a 3rdgen and even with the mods to the frame would probably be cheaper than the Viper V10.

MILT

Come guys--this guy has an idea and there's no reason to insult him for it. You may think it's an idiotic idea, but why bother calling someone "stupid?" Personally, I'd rather drive an 84Z w/ a jap engine in it than a completely GM Berlinetta.

If you're flaming someone, do it with technical info (i.e. this motor is too wide or long) as opposed to trash-talking.

MILT

FyreLance

Yes, as in "that picture was modified by..."

fast86z28

I think most people are missing the point...the guy is loaded can do whatever he wants...and it doesnt matter who stamped the steel its still a 3rd gen fbod with a domestic v-10 engine in it...i saw more power to him

RSFreak

I think that Big Blocked Honda is the real deal. :rockon:

91Zman

It's real,I remember reading something that it has a 468BB.

bigals87z28

yea.. there was no photoshop there... if it was.. i would like to talk to that guy who did that...

Dale

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if you look at the right front cornor of the engine, how it "fades" in and out. I have always thought partal hack.

Also, I had never seen the rear view of the car. Makes me change my mind now.

FyreLance

Likewise... if you look closely at some of the edges they look blurred like they had been Photoshopped... but I also had never seen the rear shot of that..... wow, that's pretty amazing

Nasty_Bird_'90

Dodge V10? Blah. C5R longblock all the way.

FyreLance

Eh, well, to each his own.

DartByU

I think it's cool, but I'm a MOPAR fan anyway, if he wants to put in a $10,000 Viper engine then more power to him, I'd like to see the completed swap after it's all in there and running. I came close to putting a 408 stroker small block Mopar in my Camaro but decided to put it in my Dart instead.

Opha

i come in to give dumb advise about the Skyline motor. First off many of you prob dont know that the skyline is the Super Car of japan... stock nothing can really beat a skyline, the skylines own every jap race around. Nothing short of an amazing car. If the engine would fit and you could rig it in (dont know if you can or what it would take) then you would have something very very nice and one hell of a machine to take to the strip. Skyline engines are one of the top engines world wide to get, any world wide tuner (not just USA now) knows of that engine and has wet dreams about it. The skyline is a major bad *** car my friends, the stock engine is designed to take over 1000 hp no problem. There are some 8 second skylines that are street legal. they just turn down the boost and change the fuel ratio when they drive it in the town. It's a largly computer controled system that is very nicely set up. The R-34 is my def. dream car...although i dont have 100grand to spend on one right now. As for getting one state side, moto rex does ship engines alone... i was thinking of getting one to tune and modify before i got my car and just do a swap when i got the car itself. But what ever... i would of went a different way then the viper motor... say a 16 cylinder engine

devianb

That is interesting. I don't see anything wrong with putting in the Dodge motor. Definately insane. Personally, I would just keep it all GM for the sake of simplicity and wiring. Chevy motors are great, but they are not my favorite choice of engines.


On note of the Skyline motor, everyone who knows what it is wants that engine. Most of them are picked up by racing teams so the ones that are left run an extremely high premium for the rest of us that want them. The Supra engine and the 300ZX motors are just as popular, but not quite as pricey and you could find more of them used. Those would be great swaps too. Most of those swaps could cost 30k so just using a GM motor is far more wallet pleasing.

SpeedCat86

Hmm, lessee now, I've got a spare Viper motor lying around the shop, and a 14 year old Camaro I've been wanting to do something different with. I think you can do the math for yourself.

I give the guy props for effort, and uniqueness. I think it's cool.

I also think that a hi-rev screamer of an engine in a lightened, lowered SC would be an interesting machine to say the least.

There are lots of Thirdgens out there, and a lot of them were dogs from the day they were built. They weren't all Firehawks. You want to do something different with yours than the 350/383 + carb? Go for it, by all means. The SBC is a great motor, you can make it do almost anything, and everyone from hot-rodders to rock-crawlers use them in almost every make of vehicle you can think of. It's not the only motor in the world though.

PONTIMANIAC 90

I'm just wondering is how the hell does a TT-six gets thrown into the mix of things. Totaly different kind of engine w/completely different specifics. Apples and oranges.
Back to the topic:
As far as a Viper V10, it's a fine motor, but one should look at it this way; It's a 480 cubic inch motor that makes 460hp and that's in a GTS-ACR version. I've recently owned one for a year w/6000 miles on it. I bought it(for profit) and just recently sold it.
Anyway a Viper is a sexy and exotic ride. It's a "special" car not only because it has a V-10 but also because it's a *****-magnet, a head-turner and a cool car in general.
It does not make a Thirdgen "as exotic" if you put a Viper V-10 in it. You can get 460hp from a small block V-8 with less effort and hassle. So going through the trouble of instaling a Viper engine into an Iroc/TA is simply self defeating proposition.
Now as far as sticking Nippon technology into an American car, it makes more logic to put a CSB into a Nissan Z car, as has been done. Now that's exotic!...sorta.

TransAm12sec

Does anyone have a pic of the engine in the maro?

2.73's Suck

how about that v10 in this bad boy, sweeeeeet:lala:

image removed- read the rules.

CrazyHawaiian

Definately Insane. I say if thats what they want to do, and they have the means to do it, then go for it! Dont let anyone or anything hold you back. Keep the creative juices flowing. Hold them back and you get left behind ...

82Z28_Camaro

Definately different, thats for sure. BUt I would never do that, Viper engine prolly cost a pretty penny, and besides, I could build a chevy engine 3 secs faster in the quarter for half the price. Then, I can say my 8 cylinder chevy smoked a Viper engine.