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Originally posted by 1991 Z-28
.....but everything is new, and will last me for a long time and its a good investment for what i plan on doing to the rest of the car, so the money i spent on this is nothing compared to how happy i will be....thats all that matters
.....but everything is new, and will last me for a long time and its a good investment for what i plan on doing to the rest of the car, so the money i spent on this is nothing compared to how happy i will be....thats all that matters
Seriously guys, the amount he has invested is well spent. Think about it, he has about $7000 in parts and roughly $3000 in labor. Do you have any idea how much labor is involved in this project? I just wish I could find someone who would only charge me $30 an hour for labor in Birmingham! Most performacnce shops are charging $65 to $70 an hour (rediculous)!
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Originally posted by 1991 Z-28
your next on the list buddy!
your next on the list buddy!
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Originally posted by Kat
Damn for 9 grand you can have a car that runs 13's!
Sorry dood I think you are getting taken to the cleaners.
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Damn for 9 grand you can have a car that runs 13's!
Sorry dood I think you are getting taken to the cleaners.
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
you obviously don't know what's involved then..............![Wink](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
he didn't get a steal or a deal; he got the average price to do what he wanted to do. if everything turns out the way it should it's more than fair.
you obviously don't know what's involved then..............
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he didn't get a steal or a deal; he got the average price to do what he wanted to do. if everything turns out the way it should it's more than fair.
A engine swap in a engine swap. I've done everything from swapping a 350 to a 3.8 turbo to a 406. I think I know what I'm talking about!.
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Originally posted by derfrank
If you think u can do it for less, let me know.
If you think u can do it for less, let me know.
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For what 1991 Z-28 is getting, its not at all unreasonable. Can a faster car be built cheaper? Sure, if you do it all yourself. From the sound of it, hes not trying to build a street racer out of it, he wants a good performing car that can be driven and enjoyed daily. A new 4th gen cost over $23k, and runs 13s too...
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Originally posted by LT1guy
For what 1991 Z-28 is getting, its not at all unreasonable. Can a faster car be built cheaper? Sure, if you do it all yourself. From the sound of it, hes not trying to build a street racer out of it, he wants a good performing car that can be driven and enjoyed daily. A new 4th gen cost over $23k, and runs 13s too...
For what 1991 Z-28 is getting, its not at all unreasonable. Can a faster car be built cheaper? Sure, if you do it all yourself. From the sound of it, hes not trying to build a street racer out of it, he wants a good performing car that can be driven and enjoyed daily. A new 4th gen cost over $23k, and runs 13s too...
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Originally posted by Kat
I prolly could. I wouldnt charge as much for labor. If you want goto www.nethirdgen.org and ask people there about the kinda work that I usually do for people when we all get together and do something on someones car.
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I prolly could. I wouldnt charge as much for labor. If you want goto www.nethirdgen.org and ask people there about the kinda work that I usually do for people when we all get together and do something on someones car.
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Originally posted by LT1guy
For what 1991 Z-28 is getting, its not at all unreasonable. Can a faster car be built cheaper? Sure, if you do it all yourself. From the sound of it, hes not trying to build a street racer out of it, he wants a good performing car that can be driven and enjoyed daily. A new 4th gen cost over $23k, and runs 13s too...
For what 1991 Z-28 is getting, its not at all unreasonable. Can a faster car be built cheaper? Sure, if you do it all yourself. From the sound of it, hes not trying to build a street racer out of it, he wants a good performing car that can be driven and enjoyed daily. A new 4th gen cost over $23k, and runs 13s too...
in fact i called about 400 freaking transmission shops and web sites and any kinda shop i could find and after about 399 of them laughing at me for wanting to swap a auto to a t56 because of how expensive it would be, thirdgenresource.com said ok well do it for 30$ an hour.... and anything else you want done, thats pretty damn good to me seeing as how i cant do any of this work myself
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Be sure to keep all the parts he swapped out too. You can sell them off and use the $$ to buy some SFC's and some other stuff. You're car will be nice man, no doubt about that. It will have alot of power. Be sure to practice launching alone before you go race those guys. I would have done the buildup differently, but the only thing that matters is that you're happy in the end. And it sounds like you are! Enjoy the car!!
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
Be sure to keep all the parts he swapped out too. You can sell them off and use the $$ to buy some SFC's and some other stuff. You're car will be nice man, no doubt about that. It will have alot of power. Be sure to practice launching alone before you go race those guys. I would have done the buildup differently, but the only thing that matters is that you're happy in the end. And it sounds like you are! Enjoy the car!!
Be sure to keep all the parts he swapped out too. You can sell them off and use the $$ to buy some SFC's and some other stuff. You're car will be nice man, no doubt about that. It will have alot of power. Be sure to practice launching alone before you go race those guys. I would have done the buildup differently, but the only thing that matters is that you're happy in the end. And it sounds like you are! Enjoy the car!!
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the tpi setup on his motor is going with the motor. we figured it would make it easy to sell the motor with the tpi on it.
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Originally posted by TMoNeE
is the tpi set up sold?
is the tpi set up sold?
yeah crazy the first things im getting asap are SFC's and a new rear, probably a 3.42 from a 4th gen, i cant find any 3.73 or 4.10's so ill have to upgrade gears later
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Hey man 10k isn't bad for everything installed. The average shop rate here is $65/hr. I ran into some kid at my work who dropped $6k on a POS 200sx turbo, and everything else to make it kinda work. "It should run low 12's" he says.
Yeah sure; for how long? I especially like the sawzall treatment on the front fenders to fit the slicks on a wrong wheel drive car.
Anyway bad car man, I wish I had the funds to get mine together as well as yours is planned. All in due time I guess.
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Anyway bad car man, I wish I had the funds to get mine together as well as yours is planned. All in due time I guess.
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Originally posted by IROC212
Hey man 10k isn't bad for everything installed. The average shop rate here is $65/hr. I ran into some kid at my work who dropped $6k on a POS 200sx turbo, and everything else to make it kinda work. "It should run low 12's" he says.
Yeah sure; for how long? I especially like the sawzall treatment on the front fenders to fit the slicks on a wrong wheel drive car.
Anyway bad car man, I wish I had the funds to get mine together as well as yours is planned. All in due time I guess.
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Hey man 10k isn't bad for everything installed. The average shop rate here is $65/hr. I ran into some kid at my work who dropped $6k on a POS 200sx turbo, and everything else to make it kinda work. "It should run low 12's" he says.
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Anyway bad car man, I wish I had the funds to get mine together as well as yours is planned. All in due time I guess.
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yeah it took me 2 years of pretty much saving extra money to do it all i hope its worth it, yeah thats what im told like 60-90 $ an hour on average and mine was 30$ an hour so im happy
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UPDATE:
1. I just ordered a stock 4th gen rear off a 98 Z, complete with brakes
2. Just ordered Spohn Sub frame connectors!!
they are being sent to thirdgenresource.com and being installed next week before i pick it up,
i decieded i am going to nee dthose things asap i might as well just send them to him and he can install them, so i put up a little more money ...
plus i will have 4 wheel disc brakes now which is awesome
and i dont need my rear spacers for the vette rims!!!
if anyone wants a pair of barely used 1.75" spacers let me know
1. I just ordered a stock 4th gen rear off a 98 Z, complete with brakes
2. Just ordered Spohn Sub frame connectors!!
they are being sent to thirdgenresource.com and being installed next week before i pick it up,
i decieded i am going to nee dthose things asap i might as well just send them to him and he can install them, so i put up a little more money ...
plus i will have 4 wheel disc brakes now which is awesome
and i dont need my rear spacers for the vette rims!!!
if anyone wants a pair of barely used 1.75" spacers let me know
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and i dont need my rear spacers for the vette rims!!!
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Originally posted by SLAYER6669
I was thinking of just buying a 4thgen rear instead of bothering to spend like 150$ on the rear spacers.. What do fourthgen rears go for usually?
I was thinking of just buying a 4thgen rear instead of bothering to spend like 150$ on the rear spacers.. What do fourthgen rears go for usually?
I paid $250 for the one that is on my car without brakes.
I got an LT1 rear brake kit from Speed Automotive for $100. Came with all the brackets, calipers, and rotors.
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i bought my rear complete with brake system for 300$ then was 125 for shipping
from speedautomotive.com too
from speedautomotive.com too
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Figured shipping would be a killer.. Might try to find one locally.. Seems more logical to put the 150$ towards a rear than towards spacers dontcha think? thanks guys
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If you do have to go with spacers, get 4 spacers made for the front, makes it easier to sell the 2 off of the rear when you eventually get the 4th gen rear. That is what I did.
I actually sold my rear ones twice. Once to a friend on his 91, then another friend bought that 91 and traded me the wheels and spacers for some 3rd gen wheels, and I sold the spacers again.
I actually sold my rear ones twice. Once to a friend on his 91, then another friend bought that 91 and traded me the wheels and spacers for some 3rd gen wheels, and I sold the spacers again.
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Originally posted by Zepher
I actually sold my rear ones twice. Once to a friend on his 91, then another friend bought that 91 and traded me the wheels and spacers for some 3rd gen wheels, and I sold the spacers again.
I actually sold my rear ones twice. Once to a friend on his 91, then another friend bought that 91 and traded me the wheels and spacers for some 3rd gen wheels, and I sold the spacers again.
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OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The car is finally back, what a long drive it was. Its so insane, its not even funny. I'll let 1991 Z-28 tell the rest of it.
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Not only is your car gonna look fast, its gonna be fast.:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
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Come on now!!! Someone post something about the car! We've all been following this post for more than 3 months now. Don't leave us hangin' man!!!
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I thought that was your car on there. I was like wow that looks familiar. How far is he now?
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The car is done, its back home in MD now. Its by far the loudest thing i've ever heard. I'm sure 1991 Z-28 will post either tonight or tommarrow about it.
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Originally posted by derfrank
The car is done, its back home in MD now. Its by far the loudest thing i've ever heard.
The car is done, its back home in MD now. Its by far the loudest thing i've ever heard.
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DO TELL! DO TELL!
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The Z is back and it is BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dreams can come true fellas....
details will come shortly, i will start a new post with everything, pictures, videos, the works, just need some time.... im breakin in the new zz4 now, car is the loudest, most bad azz thing ive ever heard in my life....
dreams can come true fellas....
details will come shortly, i will start a new post with everything, pictures, videos, the works, just need some time.... im breakin in the new zz4 now, car is the loudest, most bad azz thing ive ever heard in my life....
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That would be a perfect gift for spring break if your on it right now. I know I'm spendig my time on my car!
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I know you're running Hooker LTs, but what's the rest of the exhaust consist of?
Oh yeah, and do you have to go thru emissions?
Oh yeah, and do you have to go thru emissions?
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hooker long tubes, with no cats, and SLP loudmouth
yeah im basically ****ed for emissions i dont know what to do, gonna bring a couple hundred dollar bills with me to emissions and start passin em around see where it gets me lol, any ideas?
yeah im basically ****ed for emissions i dont know what to do, gonna bring a couple hundred dollar bills with me to emissions and start passin em around see where it gets me lol, any ideas?
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Car: 99 Formula
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Originally posted by 1991 Z-28
hooker long tubes, with no cats, and SLP loudmouth
yeah im basically ****ed for emissions i dont know what to do, gonna bring a couple hundred dollar bills with me to emissions and start passin em around see where it gets me lol, any ideas?
hooker long tubes, with no cats, and SLP loudmouth
yeah im basically ****ed for emissions i dont know what to do, gonna bring a couple hundred dollar bills with me to emissions and start passin em around see where it gets me lol, any ideas?
2 years ago for emissions after I failed 4 times, I applied for an extension,haven't heard back from them. They dont bother me,Iwon't bother them
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Forge an emissions certificate saying you passed, and lay low with the police....
Although i have never seen one before so i wouldn't know...
3 days and no pics??......
Although i have never seen one before so i wouldn't know...
3 days and no pics??......
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
Does the loudmouth use a muffler?
2 years ago for emissions after I failed 4 times, I applied for an extension,haven't heard back from them. They dont bother me,Iwon't bother them
Does the loudmouth use a muffler?
2 years ago for emissions after I failed 4 times, I applied for an extension,haven't heard back from them. They dont bother me,Iwon't bother them
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just a question and not meant to be a flame at all.but why didnt you do the work yourself?10 g's is ALOT to pay for work you coulda done yourself for a buttload cheaper.and you coulda learned a whoooole lot about your thirdgen and had a bunch of fun in the process.i only wish i had 10 g's to dump into my car.
nice car man hope to see it in person sometime.
nice car man hope to see it in person sometime.
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Car: 99 Formula
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 342
He's probably in the same situation as me. No garage, limited or no tools. Kind of hard to do such an install without either of the above.
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Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 baby!!!
Transmission: stock 700r4
true thats what i was thinkin.i was just curious though.a garage isnt typically NEEDED,but very nice to have.i have a garage,but its being blocked by our damn boat,and by the trailer alone while the boats in the water.hopefully this year my stupid dad will do something with the trailer so i can use the garage when it comes time to do the top end rebuild on the 305.if not,i got a tarp if i cant finish it on a nice weekend.in which that case i will kick myself in the face anyways for not being able to do heads,cam,manifold/carb swap,and headers in a weekend.:lala:
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Car: 1989 IROC
Engine: 350
Transmission: T56
If being too loud is what you are worried about regarding emissions, there is a trick you can do. Just drill a vertical hole in each tailpipe, about a foot from the end of the tailpipe. Then stuff steel wool into ech tailpipe just past the two holes you drilled. Once the steel wool is past the hole, drop a nail or screw from the top in order to keep the wool from blowing out. I would advise you to not stuff the wool in the pipe until you are getting ready to take it in to get checked. I did this on my 68 camaro that I had because I failed emissions for being too loud, work perfectly![Smilie](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Car: 1991 z-28
Engine: zz4 350
Transmission: t-56
I didnt PAY 10 grand to get the work done,
it ended up being more like 11 grand, and only like 2 grand was for labor, there is also alot more stuff i did and put on, then mentioned in the list at the top of this thread... it was a good deal, yes it would of been cool to do myself , my friend alex (derfrank) on the boards could helpedme out in that situation, but its alot of crap, and i have another car and im in school i dont have time for that, but its all done and over with now...
as for emissions, im not worried about it being to loud, which it definetly is anyways lol, but someone just PMed me from MD said his friend lowered his car to the point where they couldnt fit it on the rollers and they waivered him for 5 years, thats what im looking into now, doesnt sound likea bad idea, specially if the guy is from baltimore likeme and has a thirdgen, im gonna go with this guy
it ended up being more like 11 grand, and only like 2 grand was for labor, there is also alot more stuff i did and put on, then mentioned in the list at the top of this thread... it was a good deal, yes it would of been cool to do myself , my friend alex (derfrank) on the boards could helpedme out in that situation, but its alot of crap, and i have another car and im in school i dont have time for that, but its all done and over with now...
as for emissions, im not worried about it being to loud, which it definetly is anyways lol, but someone just PMed me from MD said his friend lowered his car to the point where they couldnt fit it on the rollers and they waivered him for 5 years, thats what im looking into now, doesnt sound likea bad idea, specially if the guy is from baltimore likeme and has a thirdgen, im gonna go with this guy
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Car: 1991 z-28
Engine: zz4 350
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a problem is my headers are literally an inch, inch and a half off the freakin ground, one is already banged up bad... hooker long tubes are probably not the best way to go..... so if i wanna lower my car, the headers will be resting on the ground , i need to figure somethin out