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Old 11-21-2002, 10:38 AM
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koolaid-burnout

i hear if ya do a burnout in bleech and throw some koolaid in there that the smoke comes out difference colors...fact or fiction?
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who needs bleeach?

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Re: koolaid-burnout

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i hear if ya do a burnout in bleech and throw some koolaid in there that the smoke comes out difference colors...fact or fiction?
Kool-aid liquid or Kool-aid powder?

I would think it's made up but that doesn't mean I won't try it and find out
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who needs bleeach?

hehehehehehe
dude, nice burnout. Its odd....but your car sounds like a plane. sweet car man.
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Re: koolaid-burnout

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i hear if ya do a burnout in bleech and throw some koolaid in there that the smoke comes out difference colors...fact or fiction?
I'll put my money on fiction.
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the tires are still what you are smoking up, when you do a burnout on oil does the smoke go blue??
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Doesn't bleech make a whole bunch of smoke???
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i dont know about the bunch of smoke because every time i do a burnout its pretty freaking smoky, but when i do it in bleach i do it at night because it sends chunks of flaming tires backwards, its pretty cool at night, if i could get a movie of me doing this on the computer ill post it.
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Originally posted by Squeeks83
i dont know about the bunch of smoke because every time i do a burnout its pretty freaking smoky, but when i do it in bleach i do it at night because it sends chunks of flaming tires backwards, its pretty cool at night, if i could get a movie of me doing this on the computer ill post it.
......That doesn't sound too safe since there is a gas tank right there.....

BUT how do they create such large burnouts for TV.......I know half those POS cars can't be that fast and create that much smoke that quick.......
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IF you put bleach on the ground and burn out it will smoke like a motha. If you throw a little cool aid powder in with the bleach and turn the bleach a different color Im sure it will effect the smoke. im not gona try it but I think we should convince someone to. it would be funny
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BUT how do they create such large burnouts for TV.......I know half those POS cars can't be that fast and create that much smoke that quick.......
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IF you put bleach on the ground and burn out it will smoke like a motha. If you throw a little cool aid powder in with the bleach and turn the bleach a different color Im sure it will effect the smoke. im not gona try it but I think we should convince someone to. it would be funny
I'll do it, and if it works I'll post a video on http://www.motorsportconnect.com
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I need to know if you meant Kool-Aid liquid or powder though... though I suppose I could try both.
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I dont think it will work... If anything its going to send kook-aid all over the back of your car making sticky stained areas... The only thing that would change the color of the smoke, was if there was a chemical reaction. I mean, I got a C in chemisty, so if someone tries it and it works, my hats off... I know if you do a burn out long enough the smoke changes colors from white to grey to black Its a pain to scrape all that off your quarters tho...
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You need to mix the powder in with the bleach. I would use bout 5-7 packets for a quart of bleech. Do not use the stuff with sugar already in it. Use the stuff you have to put the sugar in too. but dont put any sugar in. just bleech and non sugar coolaid powder mix. Id try wild berry blue. LOL
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Are line locks expensive, and/or difficulty to install. I always wanted to put one on my IROC.
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It could possibly change the color of the smoke. The color of
cool-aid mix is caused by simply having dye molecules present,
hence "artificial coloring". You do not need a chemical reaction to
occur for the smoke to become colored, since the coloring agent
would already be present in the bleach and cool-aid mix. If it is
going to work I would simply think that you would be "artificially"
coloring the smoke, just like you would color a pitcher of water.
I think you would make a lot of white smoke from the burn-out
and then color it by vaporizing the dye solution causing the smoke
to appear colored (in other words you would suspend the colored
dye in the smoke). If this is the case I would say that you would
need a fairly concentrated solution of cool-aid in bleach. This is
all assuming that the heat you generate doesn't combust the
dye molecules, then you will just get regular smoke. If you want
to try it go ahead but I wouldn't want dye and bleach (base)
all over my car.

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I'm gonna have to try this.......
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cant be much worse than bird $hit
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Ericcamaro - Your right. I think bird $hit is so bad because it is
fairly basic. However, I think a concentrated
bleach would be a little worse. I guess if you cleaned it off quickly
it would be OK, but I don't want to find out .

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then dont do it to your car. Bird **** is definantly more acidic than bleach in some cases. but make sure if your watchin someone else do it to stand right behind the back wheel, alright.
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I agree with you Nazzz28... now that I think about it more. Another thing I thought of... I would think that if it was that concentrated, it wouldnt be too liquidy anymore, and most of it would just get kicked out of the way while the tire is spinning up to speed. By the time the tire is spinning fast enough to smoke 'em, i would think alot of the mixture would be long gone about 10 feet behind the car. Even if you threw it on while it was spinning. I dunno. I guess we'll have to wait to see if someone trys this. Hehe...not gonna be me tho. Just my luck kool aid and bleach makes a lethal combination and when heated explodes.
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We aren't talking a big pool of bleach here, just a enough to make the pavement wet.......

Just have a 2 liter of water on hand to dump behing both wheels after you get done doing the burnout..........I highly doubt it works that fast........
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If you clean it off rather quickly it shouldn't harm your car at all.
I was just saying not to leave it on there for a while. I didn't
mean to get anyone upset or anything, I was just stating my opinion. By the way ERICCAMARO I was agreeing with you, so I
don't know why you got upset. Also, I am a chemist and know
that bleach is basic and corrosive, and not something you want
sitting on your paint.
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I will do it tomorrow and i will record it.. Either way if it works, yay i get red smoke.. if it doesnt work.. I still get a nice burnout movie to put on the internet
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What's with you guys and brake torques? Those are terrible on your brakes and drivetrain, where as burnouts are just terrible on your drivetrain .

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What's with you guys and brake torques? Those are terrible on your brakes and drivetrain, where as burnouts are just terrible on your drivetrain .

Later, Garrett

I like to do them every once in a while cuz its fun and it impresses all you friends that drives ****..whats the fun in have a v8 rwd car if you dont do some smokey burnouts every once in a while?
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I never said anything bad about the burnout, the burnout is freakin' cool. What I don't like is the guys that say my 30' posi burnout isn't **** because they did a 100' burnout when it's really a one wheel brake torque.
A brake torque and a burnout are two totally different things, burnout = power, Brake torque = good front brakes (well atleast better than the rear brakes).

Brake torques are for guys whos car doesn't have the power to do a burnout.

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What's with you guys and brake torques? Those are terrible on your brakes and drivetrain, where as burnouts are just terrible on your drivetrain .

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Yet again not knocking the burnout (trust me I do them and often) I'm knocking the brake torque.

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i was expecting more colored smoke than in the pic of the camaro with the little reddish in it.
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I like it when people do burnouts on a corner because the car breaks loose and turns sidways - a half AZZ drift if you will. I was riding my bike last summer and I saw this high school kid in a black TA at a light. I was sitting there on the opposite corner waiting to cross. When the light turned green, the TA peeled out of the corner, went extremely sideways, produced a lot of smoke, regained control, and then vanished on a horizon.



The kid thought he was going to impress me by doing that as If he wanted my approval. Well, it worked, I was left fairly impressed. I am not too easily impressed either.
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Yet again not knocking the burnout (trust me I do them and often) I'm knocking the brake torque.

Later, Garrett
your crazy
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i was expecting more colored smoke than in the pic of the camaro with the little reddish in it.
if you are talking about my pic then the red in the smoke is just coming from the brake lights
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Why am I crazy?
i just think you are crazy for not liking power braking. do you know what a line-lock is? many cars have them and use them, yes even on the drag strip. it is way easier to heat up the tires if you are not moving anywhere.

anyword on the guy who said he was gonna try it today?

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No I have nothing against a brake torque to warm your tires up before a launch to improve traction. The thing I'm getting at is the guys on the street with their pickups and underpowered cars that think it's cool to use the front brakes to get the back tires to spin.
Line locks are designed and built to be used to warm tires before a race not smoke tires. That doesn't bother me, I actually think it's a great idea.

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The thing I'm getting at is the guys on the street with their pickups and underpowered cars that think it's cool to use the front brakes to get the back tires to spin.
your point is? so what if other guys power-brake at a stop-light. thats cool with me, sure they might run a 21.65 in the 1/4 but hey at least they're smoking the tire(s). i have come across many high powered cars and many of those with smaller tires then necessary to get a good launch. none of those cars could stay in the same spot 60 secs smoking the tires hell none could stay in the same spot smoking the tires. power-braking either with the brake pedal or a line-lock allows this whether you got 100 HP or 1000 HP. sure its gay when some stupid kid with a bone stock v6 thinks he tough **** for a lil powerbrake but dont knock the WHOLE activity powerful cars do it too
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I think the point was that power braking is not good for the car.... where as line locks are not bad for the car.

And NO, it is not good for the car.....not the rear brakes...not the ENTIRE driveline...not the frame.....

You see, line lock operate differently from the "normal" brakes....nevermind, I'm off topic...sorry.
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Excuse my automotive stupidity, but what exactly is a line-lock?
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Originally posted by CamaroFreak406
The thing I'm getting at is the guys on the street with their pickups and underpowered cars that think it's cool to use the front brakes to get the back tires to spin Later, Garrett

i hate you already im 17 and cant afford to make the power to do huge smoke shows, no one cares wht you hate so f%$# off
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Old 11-22-2002, 06:37 PM
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It's not a stupid question.

Line locks....."LOCK" the front brakes only, at the "LINE". So you can fry your tires to gett'em hot, without putting all the negative stress on your rear brakes,frame,driveline,etc. like you do when you powerbrake.

I have heard many horror stories about people like us doing power braking burnouts. Most high powered drag racers, ironically, have so much power that if they did a powerbrake, the rear brakes would do so little that the driveline and chassis would be spared most of the torque.

Ever notice the lunge that our cars do right as we start a powerbrake? that torque is first absorbed by the rear brakes, and then the rest of the car...until finally we feel the rest of the torque in the form a that big ole lunge. Do not fool yourself into thinking that our cars have so much engine torque that the car just flexes like that. ( some of you guys do, but not most of us!)

That's not directed at you flynlow....just a public service announcment to everyone.

But once again,.....they are tons of fun to do!!!
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Old 11-22-2002, 06:40 PM
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Abubaca, I agree 100%. :lala:
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Old 11-23-2002, 12:52 AM
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guess i need line locks!

i burnout out on dry pavement!
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