logikal6785

has anyone seen pics of a headlight conversion on firebirds so that the pop up sections are removed and where they would be when down is covered by a clear or blacked out cover? i want to keep the streamlined look even at night and that would be pretty damn cool

si_camaro

I think Chevrolet debuted a car with that sort of thing already done...called it the "Camaro" or something like that.

just messin with ya

Nothing on Ebay then? try procarparts.com

redbird_400

Whats a Camaro?




just ing

si_camaro

Any excuse.....

86FyrBrd

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oh g(0)d not one of those ugly things, with the two parachutes on the front bumper

:lala:

88 350 tpi formula

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a long time ago some one on this board did that they looked like they used sunfire lights. I thought it looked like trash but, thats me. maybe if they came that way I would be used to it.

88Bravo

Yes it has been done. A couple of times as a matter of fact. Did you try a search??? Here is a pic, fog lights were used in place of the headlights. Summit has a wiring harrness to make the conversion. Meet RAIF.

logikal6785

i did search. and yes, i've met raif - ram air inducted firebird, is it ?

=D

i read all about her car a couple months ago, every page of it - the red mirror tint allowed for medical reasons (migraines from sun? ) to how her engine was destoyed by a lousy mechanic who left an old gasket in it or something when he rebuilt it to the gears that were put in wrong so she does everything herself.

what i'm actually looking for though is a plastic housing that takes the place of the metal pieces that fold up and down. that way the lights don't move up and down, but are always facing forward under the plexiglass case.

Jza

Lyke dees?

That's Amorget's car BTW.

robertg

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I like the look of Amorget's car with the sunfire light conversion.

The foglight design doesn't eliminate the lines of the factory pop-up headlight housing, however, so it doesn't appeal to me, if i had a bird.

logikal6785

ya ! just like that ! thanx for your help - i'll pm amorget ASAP
:hail: :hail: :hail:

wingnut

Call me old-fashioned, but I think that the stock headlights look far better than those in the pictures found in this thread. I personally like the pop-ups. (I know, I know, you don't care ).

86FyrBrd

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uhhhh eww

j/k I dont really like them, makes front look to pointy,but if you like them, thats your thing, go for it.

logikal6785

yes 86 fyrbyrd, it does look pointy - on a formula

on a gta though ... too cool hehe

thanx for ur help guys ... gosh why didn't i just settle for squished foglamps ?

AmorgetRS

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Actually guys, neither of those cars are mine...

Jza

Ha whoops.. I've misidentified that pic before, too, I think..

robertg

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lol, oops.

I still like the look of the car with those headlights.

logikal6785

do you have an idea whose that car might be? i really would like to pm them about it

Nightcruzer

the black firebird is jptaylor's.
here is his website
http://www.geocities.com/jptaylor2/FIREBIRD.html

AmorgetRS

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Mine looks basically like the red one, but I have a black Firebird. After seeing all the pics of the other black Formula I was sure to model mine to look absolutely nothing like it.
I am sorry to you people that like it, but it really is a rather weak job of it. The reason the plexi doesn't line up at the top for the "Ram Air" effect is because you mounted it to the front radtiator brace, which puts it lower then the hood. One of the few ways to mount it, and does give some sort of Ram Air affect, but it mostly gives it a unfinished look. Also, if you do it, for gods sakes, DON'T PAINT THE BUCKETS YELLOW!! Just my .02 about the mod...

Blackened

That car is FUGLY !!!

cfirebird86

like. I like very much. I would like to know how you did it.

cfirebird86

I like very much. I would like to know how you did it.

this is what my car looks like. My car winks though.
While at our car meet i a was asked about that i told some guys that it winking at all the cars.

Jza

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92Transam

eeeeeeeeewwww thats ugly I hate those head lights, I'd rather stay with the flip ups.

LT1guy

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The Summit harness was just to make all four lights come on when the brights are on.

LT1guy

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See below my sig..btw the judges at the TA Nats (1st place), Super Chevy (1st Place), and NOPI (1st Place) would disagree.

AmorgetRS

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Sounds like someone is a little insecure....

scauffiel

Actually, it sounds like someone is just a little tired of the lame bullsh!t about a purely subjective thing like "appearance." Someone with the ***** (sorry Shannon) to mod their car to their likeness is a damn sight more secure than those who are afraid to.

A moderator to boot, huh?

S.

LT1guy

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AmorgetRS
Sounds like someone is a little insecure.... [/QUOTE


Insecure? Not in the least. The vocal minority's opinion bears no weight with me, esp since most of them have never accomplished ANYTHING of significance with their own cars. Notice the naysayers never post pics of their own car, or any of their accomplishments...they usually don't have any. I put those types in the same category as the armchair quarterback...they're sitting on their a$$, accomplishing nothing, but they're quick to criticize others. Most have never done anything harder than a bolt on mod, much less build a show winner (or drag car, autocrosser...whatever, I respect those that build their own), and know nothing about any car other than the one they're currently driving .

I don't like every car I see on this board...there are some that are true automotive abortions...but I don't attack people or their cars, unless they start it. If you have something to add to a thread, add it...if you have a positive or constructive comment, make it...otherwise, you should keep your mouth shut. I would hope a "moderator" would know that...but apparently all it takes to become a "moderator" is a high post count

BTW...we won our class at Super Chevy-Montgomery yesterday. Just another thing for us to be "insecure" about

redraif

Wow another post brought back from the dead. Hey, people do know how to use the search button!

Way to post something helpful!

GTA Ryder

Hey,
I would still like to know who's black bird that is with the sunfire conversion...i wanna see what the thing looks like in the daylight with the lights off......
That one link was non-existent when I tried it....

AmorgetRS

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Actually, it isn't a Sunfire conversion. The guy built headlight pockets, added some fog lights/driving lights, and lexan covers. His site detailed all what he did pretty well, however that site is long gone...

redraif

I actually did some extensive searching to try and track down any other pics of that conversion. I had the pics stored, but lost them when my disks died. The above pic is all I was ever able to find! The lights in my opinion really needed better finishing work to look right. I search and found a thread indicating he was reding them, but nothing after that. And with the site gone, I could find nothing! Sorry!

Anybody save those pics by chance? I would not mind seeing them again! Every attempt can teach us something. Maybe someone could improve his design to look better!

AmorgetRS

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I'll look through some of my old backup CDs at home and see if I saved any. I spent a lot of time looking at his design before I did mine.

redraif

Sweet! Thanks! You know I did the same thing (studying the design) I found his car before I even knew about TGO or ever saw your car. I was so surprised to see you had the same basic design as I did when I first posted my conversion.

AmorgetRS

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Yeah, isn't it weird how some things come out like that. I think we both saw the same flaws in the first design and I still think that the style we did was the best looking fixed conversion. I would like to attach the headlight covers to the hood, however, and get rid of a lot of unneeded hardware. I just unplugged the headlight motors and took out the lamp and the hardware to mount it to the headlight assembly. It is also funny that we have almost the same hood, but mine is ASCD not Suncoast

redraif

Yes indeed!

I did the same thing...pulled out all the headlght hardware. Was disappointed to find that the headlight door was held on by that massive metal headlight skeleton. I had to remove so much of them, just the get my lights in there, then cutting out the front of the headlamp bezel was fun! You know I have now idea about yours, what did you do to finish around the lights? Did you cut up a headlamp bezel like me?

Let me know if you come up with a good idea for flushing those headlight doors. Heck I'm dealing with the hood trying to separate (top and bottom) on mine in the rear right now! Not sure what I would do to get the courners strong enough with glass! Personally I would be less leary if I still had a metal hood and just decided to weld the things to the hood. Be a pain though, they are not the same metal, but doable!

AmorgetRS

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IIRC the headlight doors are alum, so would be REALLY hard to weld. I did very little cutting, and actually currently the car has stock style headlights after I got rear ended and the front bumber bar was damaged, which in turn threw the headlights all outta wack. I think the best way to do it would be to fiberglass, but it would not be easy to make it tough enough. Deffinately need to mold some ridges, etc into it.

I did cut the original bezel initially, but didn't like it. I ended up taking it all out and because the car was black it didn't show the holes near as bad. Most people didn't even notice that I didn't have stock headlights, much less there where holes around the lights. I would, now, make some bezels from thin sheet metal. I would probably also find a way to hold up the headlight door now that I have a welder and plasma cutter. Much easer to fab stuff up like that, though it would again, not be easy.

Gambit69

Does anyone have any more pics of this car? Would love to see more about this headlight mod.

AmorgetRS

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That is the car RAIF and I where talking about. Nobody seems to have pictures of it anymore.

GodSpeedGTA

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i believe ive actually seen that black firebird on the road in houston. I was driving down 1960 and he was pulling on from a parking lot and got right beside me and i saw how he had converted his headlights and they looked like the squares were clear and he had put bulbs behind it...i think it looked awesome but at the same time i want to keep my car a little bit original

also the car was grey it wansnt black i know that for sure so i dunno might have been someone else