Alternative Port EFI Intakes This board is for tech discussions and questions about aftermarket port EFI such as the HSR, MR, SR, BBK, FIRST, etc.

Is it possible to pass emissions with a mini ram?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-03-2005, 10:53 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
spedrace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque / Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 camaro z28
Engine: 6.3L, heads, headers, cam,.....
Transmission: 700-R4 w/shift kit and 3-4 WOT kit
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Is it possible to pass emissions with a Mini Ram?

Hey you guys I have a quick question about the Mini Ram. Will I be able to pass emissions with a Mini Ram? I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico if that helps at all. If I can’t, what should I do so that I can pass emissions? I just want to know if I have to put on the old TPI intake every time I need to pass emissions, this would really suck!!! Well let me know if you guys have any knowledge of this. Thanks.

Last edited by spedrace35; 11-03-2005 at 11:00 PM.
Old 11-03-2005, 11:56 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
david roush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Mechanicsburg,Pa usa
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92'Camaro RS
Engine: a loud one
Transmission: bolted to the engine
As far as i know....no you cannot pass emissions w/ mini ram nor stealth ram,stealth ram has no provisions for an EGR valve. Mini ram from what i understand will not pass either. You could go super ram.
Old 11-04-2005, 12:06 AM
  #3  
Member
Thread Starter
 
spedrace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque / Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 camaro z28
Engine: 6.3L, heads, headers, cam,.....
Transmission: 700-R4 w/shift kit and 3-4 WOT kit
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Thanks for the input. For the supper ram i dont know if the intake will be able to fit onto a fel-pro 1206 gasket. Those are the gaskets that fit my head. However I do perfer to get the mini ram. I just wanted to know if anyone has passed emissions with a mini ram. I am willing to swap intakes every time i need to pass emissions thats once every two years. Thanks again for you input. And let me know about the supper ram's gasket size.
Old 11-04-2005, 08:44 AM
  #4  
Supreme Member
TGO - 10 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
sofakingdom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 26,504
Received 1,862 Likes on 1,418 Posts
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Technically, the Miniram and Stealth Ram are not emissions-legal, because they do not support all factory-installed equipment (specifically EGR). They are sold "for off-road use only", and "not for use on pollution-controlled motor vehicles".

That being said, enforcement is about 9/10 of the law. In your specific locale, it may, or may not, be possible to satisfy measurements of emissions, even without EGR or whatever else. One thing that will CERTAINLY make it impossible, is if you have "visual" inspections, like California does; where they look under your hood for every device and wire and vacuum hose and verify that it's all there and appears to be operational. If the EGR (or anything else) is absent, you automatically fail.

Some places have no emissions inspections whatsoever; some put cars on the sniffer and check its idle emissions; some run them on the dyno at specific speeds and loads. It's impossible to know, without knowign what they do where you live, whether it's possible to make any given car pass. And of course with FI, you have complete control of the tune; it's possible that you might be able to get yours to sail right through a tailpipe test, yet your next-door neighbor with identical hardware, may fail miserably.

The rules and enforcement methods for emissions equipment vary extremely widely from one place to another. Nobody here, except for somebody else from Albuquerque, is going to know what the rules and enforcement are in Albuquerque. Look up your own local laws. Talk to your own local officials, they're the ones in charge, not us. Ask other people in your town with similar systems what they had to do.

Last edited by sofakingdom; 11-04-2005 at 08:47 AM.
Old 11-04-2005, 11:05 AM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
 
spedrace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque / Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 camaro z28
Engine: 6.3L, heads, headers, cam,.....
Transmission: 700-R4 w/shift kit and 3-4 WOT kit
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Thanks a million, i will do that! Hopefully all goes good for me!
Old 11-04-2005, 05:29 PM
  #6  
TGO Supporter

iTrader: (5)
 
89gta383's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Posts: 1,852
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Car: 89 GTA
Engine: 383
Transmission: 4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12 bolt-3.73
If you have a tailpipe sniffer test and not visual it will pass.
Old 11-05-2005, 12:12 AM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
Rocky98731's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 85' Camaro
Engine: 355ci 430hp
Transmission: T5
Ive been able to get both of my cars to pass in NY where we have the dyno test but no real visual inspection. Although once and a while they look for a CAT but its hollow. I have a carb'ed 355 and a TPI 305 both lacking all emissions. The trick I learned from a friend who used to do inspections was to run a 50/50 mix of Isopropyl alcohol and 93octane gas. The gas is meerly to keep it running smooth but when the alcohol burns it gives off no emissions so you pass. Ive done this at least a 1/2 dozen times and only once did I not pass but that was because I didn't have a CAT on the carbed car. So I took it to another place and the guy didn't check for the CAT and the car passed well under then limit. one thing I will say is only do it w/ like a gallon of gas. Run the car so you are sure your running on the mix before it gets tested. Then once you pass fill it up w/ gas and enjoy cheating the system. I use dry gas as my source of Isopropyl alcohol. Its usually the more expencive of the dry gases offered but its still only like 1.50 but I use like 8 of them. The one in the red bottle is my fav. Well its always worked for me and the logic is there to back it up. So good luck
Old 11-05-2005, 01:04 PM
  #8  
Member
Thread Starter
 
spedrace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque / Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 camaro z28
Engine: 6.3L, heads, headers, cam,.....
Transmission: 700-R4 w/shift kit and 3-4 WOT kit
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Thanks a million Rocky98731, thats so good news!! I will for sure give this mini ram chance and hope i pass!!! I will let you all know what happens!! Thanks again.
Old 11-05-2005, 03:35 PM
  #9  
Member
Thread Starter
 
spedrace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque / Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 camaro z28
Engine: 6.3L, heads, headers, cam,.....
Transmission: 700-R4 w/shift kit and 3-4 WOT kit
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Well I found out emissions laws here in Albquerque, New Mexico. I think I am screwed!! I think I am going to have to swap in the TPI intake for the test. This is what I found:

2. Pollution Control Equipment (tamper check) - The Air Care Inspector checks that the catalytic converter, air injection system and oxygen sensor are properly installed and are original or approved replacements. Tampering (removing or disconnecting equipment) was more prevalent in the introductory years of pollution control equipment than it is today.

5. OBDII Testing (vehicle computer) - The OBDII test monitors the vehicles on board computer for components that are not operating properly (the check engine light is part of this system) and determines the condition of the vehicles emissions equipment.

Well it looks like to me ill be getting a visual inspection and a computer check out!! If they do an in depth computer check there going to see that the set up is nothing close to stock. What should I do about this?!!
Old 11-05-2005, 10:48 PM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
Rocky98731's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 85' Camaro
Engine: 355ci 430hp
Transmission: T5
You have a 91' there is no OBDII test on a 91'. OBDII started in 1996 although you may find some 1995 model year cars which are OBDII. So there are no worries of any indepth computer analysis.
NYS also claims to have a visual inspection but it is very rarely done. In general as long as you pass the saftey and emissions inspection, Ive rarely even seen the hood get opened. Some states take the visual inspection very seriously while others claim to have it but neglect to enforce it. I know California has very stringent visual inspection.
Old 11-06-2005, 02:41 AM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
spedrace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque / Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 camaro z28
Engine: 6.3L, heads, headers, cam,.....
Transmission: 700-R4 w/shift kit and 3-4 WOT kit
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Thanks for the feed back!! Thats a relief that there wont be any in dept computer checks!! Well I just hope that they wont do a cray visual inspection!!! But I will let you know exactly what happens one I get my car running!!
Old 11-06-2005, 05:42 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
5.7tpiroc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Amarillo, Tx
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 89 Iroc
Engine: 5.7tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt posi w/ 2.77s
I'd figure for $1000-1200 bucks they could at least make them pass emissions!
Old 11-06-2005, 08:44 PM
  #13  
Member
Thread Starter
 
spedrace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Albuquerque / Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 91 camaro z28
Engine: 6.3L, heads, headers, cam,.....
Transmission: 700-R4 w/shift kit and 3-4 WOT kit
Axle/Gears: 4.11
hahahaha, I agree with you!!
Old 11-07-2005, 09:04 AM
  #14  
Banned

iTrader: (4)
 
HiTech5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: ILL
Posts: 861
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Pontiac TA
Engine: 383
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.70
The answer to your question is:Yes it is possible to pass an emissions test with a MiniRam. I passed the Ohio Echeck with my 406 solid roller MiniRam motor.

The more mods, the more accurate the tune must be. If it's too lean, the HC's will go up. Too fat and the CO rises etc.

As far as I know, Ohio does not do a visual. They didn't do one on mine.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hectre13
Car Audio
26
03-03-2022 05:38 PM
Linson
Auto Detailing and Appearance
25
09-25-2021 07:55 PM
racereese
Tech / General Engine
14
10-03-2015 03:46 PM



Quick Reply: Is it possible to pass emissions with a mini ram?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:59 PM.