vortech305

I have an 88' 305 TPI motor and when i bought the motor from the junkyard a while back the guy included engine wire harness, computer. However he did not include the mass air flow sensor. I recently just bought a MAF and im considering getting the painless wiring harness for my motor. Are their products any good. Im sure some of u have some experiences with them. My stock harness looks like crap so i might need a new one. And lastly if possible do any of u guys know a place where they might sell COMPLETE enging harnesses under $300.00 besides the highly expensive TPIS.
thank u

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.

Dan87IROC-Z

I think they sell them in Jegs and Summit for under $300. Although my friend described his Painless harness in this way "that painless wiring kit is a pain the a$$" so I'm sure it doesn't sound too easy to work with.

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End

Current Mods: LT4 Hot Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition Coil, Cap, Rotor, 8.8mm Wires, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET (w/o LT4 cam): 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)

7.5" 10 Bolt with 3.42s soon to come!

Guido

I bought one of those painless TPI harnesses to replace mine and ended up sending it to the ****ter. It was worthless as a factory replacement in my opinion.

I found a used one on the web.

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-86 IROC
Vortech Supercharged 406
-=ICON Motorsports=-

bad camaro RS

i used painless in my motor swap i liked it the only thing bad was it wasnt long enough to go the same route into the computer as the factory 1 "though fender" so i jus drilled hole down low in firewall and ran it through there u cant even see where i took it through firewall its worth it id buy it again i think they may sell a longer version now good luck

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1992 camaro RS
195cc AFR heads with compition port work milled to 58cc "10.9 to 1 compression"
373 10 bolt rearend
ssm sfc's
87 350 TPI
bored 30 over
compucam 2032 with 1.65 full roller rockers
497-510 LIFT 214-220 duration
msd6AL
1 5/8 headman headers
2 `1/2 flowmaster exuast
k&n filters gutter air box gutted maf"no fins no screens"
3 pc under drive pulleys
no emissions no egr etc
custom ED Wright chip
eddelbroc intake base and runners ported plenum
accel 8.8mm wires
B&M mega shifter
gutted maf/airbox
hotchkis lower control arms
3" exhuast cutout
homemade cold air intake
2000 tci stall
700R4 with B&M shift kit edelbrock water pump
new best ET 13.5 @104.66
no times with new afr heads hoping for 12's on motor
Nos to be installed soon

stingerssx

I have used "Easy Wiring" which I think is just a cheaper version, in a '56 (UGH!!) ford truck. I think that for an aplication as basic as that, it was the best you could do. But for the newer cars, I think that they would be even better. The cool thing was that all of the wires are black, but they have writing on them about every foot, so you can trace them easier. I liked it, it looked alot better, and made instalation a snap.

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'82 Firebird, dead stock, 9 bolt disc rear, over 200,000 miles and still going strong, more to come...
http://www.spinfrenzy.com/stingerssx...easures.html#4

87Z-ya

iTrader: (1)

Fuel injection specialties makes harnesses right in there shop. And I believe they are under 250. There website is www.fuelinjectionspecialties.com


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87z 383,afr 190's, comp hyd roller(242/248-.540/.562,114 sep),Ported and polished mini ram, 30lb inj, 3.42 gears, tremec 5spd, , 1,3/4" slp headers, speed pro bank to bank-wb02.
"Just remember children, no man can beat you once youv'e found the cliterous." 'chef'

442guy

the guys that say the painless wiring is a pain, arnt qualified to do a fuel injection swap in the first place. i used a painless maf tpi harness to put my motor in an oldsmobile and it was a SNAP. at least compared to trying to sort out the stocker?
AND the harness is gm color coded wire. so if a wire is pink stock, then the new one is pink too. and they are labled,and have instructions.

jmd

iTrader: (4)

From people who do efi swaps right (i.e. with full function), Painless harnesses are junk.

They, for years grounded the VSS so the car was always at 0mph as far as the ECM was concerned.

Friend who has done a lot of swaps (35+ tpi) whose swaps run perfect when done has fixed other people's swaps by using a GM harness.

A local shoppe who shall remain nameless told my friend (who is just getting into mod'ing his car) that "yeah, they run right, you just gotta pull the SES bulb"

FWIW, 442 guy... I clipped a pigtail off an 83 v6 2bbl Cutlass ECM harness, and a pigtail off a 2.8 or 3.1 v6 'bird dash harness. With this "interim" harness, the cutlass ecm plug will plug right into my stock dash harness, and with 1 or 2 wires moved, the v6 'bird dash plug will plug into the 86 tpi harness, and I'll solder the ones that are the same and have about 3 or 4 leftover. All factory functions will be utilized and functional, including SES, ALDL, VSS, and everything.

Sorting out the stocker vs. the 86 iroc harness was no problem. Then again, I had 86 F Helms wiring diag, and 86 B/G Helms. Couldn't be simpler.

Little off topic, but FWIW, I still wouldn't mess with a Painless harness. Go GM (used), or go Howell, or don't go.