articwhiteZ

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let us not forget.. how bad the Sphon K member set up for your tie rod steering is..and don't fit..Right!


never have never will...they get your money...and that's it...


notice set back of cross bar..how it sits with tie rods ..LOL

articwhiteZ

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remember UMI K Member fits Like it was made by GM.


NOTICE how the UMI K member fits...see how the tie rods sit...

strokerbird84

well i guess thank god i decided to go manual rack using the pinto mounts they offer. Hopefully this eliminates this problem for me.......I guess i will find out when my shipment shows up.

lt1z350

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Both look like a lot of over kill compared to my paracing.

Twin_Turbo

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actually for road use and road racing the PA thing looks very flimsy. I would not run that.

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I could see the pa racing one bend if you turned a little to hard, that thing looks sketchy

Twin_Turbo

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What I like about the umi one is that it uses the support triangles like stock. My BMR one doesn't and I'm going to fab some supports that will fit (as the stockers obviously will not)

Next time I'm getting a new K member, I'm getting the UMI one.

lt1z350

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Lots of guys have run it both drag racing and road racing so seen it proven and why got it. Wheels up on bumper over and over no issues with one car. A few are strictly auto cross only. Plus with him ever have any issue he will fix it free and upgrade if sees issue with design also free. Can't say that about any of the big companies so no worries here. Like I said others look like way over kill. We do this to drop weight and get clearance so go to the edge and when a part is proven over and over I don't see an issue getting it. They were the first company to build the fox body k members and his f body have been around just as long same design never seen a complaint posted anywhere. So looks my be very deceiving. Plus it is the stronger lighter chrome Molly pipe.

Twin_Turbo

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It's not the tubing that is the issue, it's the total lack of gussets putting all stress on a weld only supported by a cross bar with a bend in it. How much weight will a set of small gussets add? Next to nothing, how much durability? A lot.

Sure, he will fix any problems, but if the things comes apart on the street doing what. 100+ and you make yourself into roadkill... what good will it do? I like to bet on safety if it's a little heavier instead of light weight and questionanle safety.

And as for weight, if you were all that converned you would remove weight from up high..in other words get rid of the AC and stuff you have there. If you are so dead set on weight savings build a race car. Not a street car with all creature comforts that also has to be a race car. The 2 don't mix.

Here's my BMR,

84strokerbird

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Looks awesome! Super clean

articwhiteZ

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I like the look and feel of the UMI unit.

skinny z

Are those Intrax springs?

IROCThe5.7L

I have quite a few spohn parts on my car. Before I ordered a new k member they just completely rubbed me the wrong way. I won't hijack your thread. But for the rest of my suspension parts (k member, a arms) I went with umi. I guess it was a blessing in disguise. The umi parts fit great.

Twin_Turbo

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No, vogtland

articwhiteZ

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I still have /going to use sphon A arms had every style they make. and the front oil over set up... but that K member made to work with tie rods is Junk!!

articwhiteZ

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LMAO....sketchy... every time I look at that one..im like.. so is it all there??

84strokerbird

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Does anyone know how it works with spohns manual pinto rack? That's the style I have coming.

articwhiteZ

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spohn takes their rack K member. and cuts notches out of it to fit a the stock tie rod steering set up...what you might have a prob with is wheel set back.
front wheels moved to the back of the wheel well. 1 1/2 to 2"inches.

I tried all 3 types of A arms they make. without it fixing the problem.
going to another maker of K members fixed the wheel setback.

after you get there parts you are stuck with them. so if you end up with wheel setback..place a add to sell it off for a small loss... and buy another brand.. this is SOP. set up and checking the fit of parts is the first thing ya want to do..ask spohn is they will take parts back if they don't fit right..... don't know if they fixed any set up fitment..but I do know. you buy the parts.. you own THEM! regardless of how they FIT!! just sayn..

84strokerbird

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I'm figuring it's going to be my luck that I will have wheel set back. What I'm wondering though is if it will clear the wheel wells with skinnies up front and if the wheel set back may or may not help with weight transfer at the track.

84strokerbird

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Also plan on running the 2" extended one piece fiberglass front end so may be able to cut wheel clearance if needed or if it's going to cause me header interference since I'm running lemons headers that wrap outside of the frame.

articwhiteZ

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this is what wheel setback looks like 15x3.5 wheel
wheel is moved to rear of opening coming way to close to fender inside.

articwhiteZ

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84strokerbird

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Is it possible to massage with a BFH? my car is going to be a drag car not a show car by any means so I'm not against doing what it takes to make it work. Buying another k member at this point is going to put a huge wrench in my gears to get this build done. I'm currently saving for my AFR 300cc oval port magnum bbc Heads and they are not cheap. Trying to avoid at all costs essentially wasting money.

articwhiteZ

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who knows..ya might not have any problems..could bolt up fit right. check it out...
if it don't fit right and your stuck with it...place the for sale add first...then do a update post...


but if you look close at the photos I posted. (k members) installed you will see the A arm Mounts set back on the sphons.
if they are using the same jig... then the same prob is still there

note how the front frame braces are almost even with the A arm mounts. on the UMI K member

then look at the sphons. see how the are set back away from the frame braces..= wheel setback

84strokerbird

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OK thanks for the suggestions and pics. Btw I'm in love with those wheels. Looks like your running light weight front brakes did you need to go with the low pad rims or the med. Pad rims? I'm going to be running the wilwood drag brakes and don't know what will fit.

articwhiteZ

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I also tried 4 or 5 makes of wheels 3.5 wide

rts low pad will fit.. but I swaped out the rts fronts for aluma stars 2.0