Theking

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Hi there again.

Ive sent some emails to summit and autometer and havent got any answer yet (1 week ago I sent the emails) So I will ask over here instead

If i have an 1989 Camaro IROC-Z (that was HARDTOP from factory)
But was made an T-Top after it left the factory (aftermarket T-Top, almost look the same as stock one, it seems like the T-top starts a little furter back then stock, like 2cm maybe...),
it goes as an Hard top and not an T-Top for the gauge holder right ? or ?

Really dont now myself.. dont want to buy the wrong thing.

T-TOP, ATM-12203: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

HARDTOP, ATM-12201 : http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Really need your help over here


EDIT:
putting up a pic from inside of my car

Jay

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Probably the hardtop version. I got the t-top version for my car which is a factory t-top, your's looks like it has the C&C tops. Mine fit terribly. I ended up cutting it to try and get it in better. It still sits on the dash pad to where I really don't like it. It's not as bad as it was, it was pushing into the pad to where it would probably crack it. If if had it to do over I'd go with just the pods not the whole pillar cover.

KrisW

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I'd get the hardtop one, and if you have to modify it slightly, then do that.

If it was me buying them, I'd get the pods and mount them myself as Jay stated above. I like being able to put them where I want...

DJP87Z28

Autometer gage & pod mounted under STB and conected to the schader valve by stainless steel lines.

Theking

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So if I but the Hardtop one it will fit then ?

because I will get, one Autometer Cobalt, vacuum/boost, and one cobalt Air/fuel ratio and the Cobalt fuelpressure gauge, So I want them to sit on the left side of me

So you guys think that the hardtop one will do it for me ? is it harrd to install ?

is there anyone that have pictures of that triple one ?

thanks

Spike-Z

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The hardtop will fit. But I heard (and theres numerous posts on this site about this) that they fit like crap and you have to cut the ends. The last pod its the dash pretty bad. You need to either, re-mold the pod by heating it, or notch the dash pad.... If I was you, Id try these guys. I sent them a message and they said it was a direct swap. No hassle no mods.

http://speedhut.com/product_detail-AUTO_NUMBER-634.htm

86irocterror

the t top and hardtop pod from autometer is the same thing i think!!! i have the hard top and it fit like crap. i have been slowly shaving it down and shaping it so i can move it up away from the dash pad! a dremel will be your best friend after doing this...lol

Theking

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How can the make thing that dosent fit ? and is it that bad ? really ?
sounds alittle strange to make things that dont fit ..
The other thing is that I live in Sweden and We will order everything from summit in about 3 days.. its hard to inport stuff to sweden so thats why I want to buy everything from one place

Can someone take some pictures of the triple pillar and uploa here ?
Would really appreciate it

EDIT:
adding a new photo on the driver side

Theking

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2 days left now until the order from summit..
Is there anyone that can take some photo of the triple pillar from autometer in their Camaro ?

I would really appreciate it

HCR13

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Here is a picture of how the t-top version of the triple gauge pillar fits. Like Jay said it sits extremely close to the dashpad...

Theking

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I think it looks pretty nice

Thanks HCR13

maybe some day pics someone ?

Jay

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I tried taking pics of mine, but the lighting in the garage is pretty bad. Plus my dash pad is off as I have been running wiring for the wideband O2 setup.

Theking

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Thanks for the pics
I think it look nice. Is it hard to remove the dashplate ? I need to do the same thing soon. Will order everything tomorrow

Do you have a A/F ratio gauge? if so are you soliding the Air/fuel ratio meter directly to the ecm ?

Im going to solder it with the cable from the O2 sensor signal . That goes in to the ECM, PPL D7 i think it was its the eseast way to install it

thanks again for the pics

customblackbird

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hardtop verson basically sits on the dashpad. i have them on my 350 formula.

HCR13... wat gauges are those? company and type?
JAY... wat bout urs?

Theking

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customblackbird : do you have any pics of youre setup ?

HCR13

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the t-top version also sits and presses into the dashpad. And it is not hard to remove. Just make sure you remove all of the screws along the front/under edge. And four long screws on the deforst vent on the middle front.
customblackbird: those are just gagues I got from ebay. top: Fuel pressure gauge from Glowshift. middle:tach from EvilAutostyle bottom: Air Fuel ratio gauge also by Glowshift.
When I hit the lottery, I will by brand name gauges, but not for now

Jay

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Tach/shift light from Stewart Warner is going in the top hole, not installed yet.. part of the weekend project.
PLX DM-100 is in the middle, it's for my Wideband O2 and EGT, it's fully customizable all digital.
Bottom is Autometer ES series fuel pressure.

customblackbird

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what do u mean pics.... of just the gauge pillar?
right now its filled with stewart warner gauges. i have a digital trans temp but thats at the other side along side the middle air vents... i'll be putting a stewart warner trans temp gauge after i install it in the vent for a custom look.

HCR13...wat did they cost U? i dont like the autometer and the stewart warners are only like 50$ a pop.

thanks jay... like the fuel pressure. i have a digital trans temp and is ok but it looks outa place with my other gauges.

Theking

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customblackbird:

yeah some pics of the pillar, just to see how it looks in different cars.

yesterday we sent the order to summit so in about ~4weeks we will get the stuff

HCR13

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I got my fuel pressure gauge and A/F gauge for about $50 each with ship. And about $40 for the tach... When I have money to burn I'll get the $200 fuel pressure gauge from Autometer and a $900 wide band setup...

Jay

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Mine was only $400 with the gauge. Could have skipped the gauge and it would have been $200, or gone with a $80 digital gauge. I figured that since I can have this one display the EGT as well and that's not something I need to see all the time it was worth it.

customblackbird

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here are 2 pics of the daytime on a hardtop. the pics look kinda weird but mine fit great and didnt have to trim anything.i have an 86ta wit t-tops and the pillars are different, i think its just the height, and th top is a slightly different style

the pillar fits good, also it looks like the gauges are squished to the bottom but its really not like that. when your sitting in the car the top gauge is directly infront of my eyes at head height... maybe alil higher. im 6'1" too. also u can see how the bottom gauge sits on the dashpad and acutally leaves and indent in the pad. also the first pick makes it seem like u can see the gauges fully but when u sit in the car the gauges arent obstructed at all and u can see the gauges clearly. it also seems like the individual gauge holes are actually angles slightly different from each hole for optimal viewing. the first pick the camera is slightly higher than head height

HCR13

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mine fits just about the same way...I'm going to "experiment" tomorrow and see if I can get it to fit slightly better. I'm going to see if I can "shave" some of the dashpad to make it fit a couple of cm's thinner and maybe move up the mounted gauge holder on the original pillar it sits on...

Theking

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customblackbird:

I think it looks pretty good I really do

well all the stuff we ordered is on the way from summit now, we landed on 2200dollars we where a couple of friends that bought some stuff
Will come to sweden in about ~30 days..

Can wait, Im climping the walls over here..

THANKS ALL for the help

HCR13

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wow! I bet summit loved that call! let us know when everything arrives and how it turns out!

customblackbird

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thanks... enjoy ur new parts lol i cant believe it takes 30days to get to u lol!!! i wouldnt be able to take that, i have trouble with 2 days lol. they backordered a set of fog lights from me from summit since xmass and i didnt know till bout a week go that they said they no longer carry them and sry for the inconvience. that was over a month AGO!!! so that would mean like what 6 months for u... lol

post sum pics and let us kno how it turns out

Theking

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Yeah, I will post some pictures when the stuffs arrives
The reason for the long deliver is because its going with boat to norway harbor, and then from norway to sweden.. thats why..

here below you will see my summit list :

1.) ACF-GF652 - Fuel Filter,AC Delco
2.) ACF-PF1218 - Oil Filter, AC Delco
3.) ACF-R45TS - Spark Plug, AC Delco
4.) ATM-12201 - Gauge Pod, Triple 2 1/16 in., Black ABS
5.) ATM-6163 - Gauge, Cobalt, Fuel Pressure, 0-100 psi, 2 1/16 in., Electrical
6.) ATM-6103 - Gauge, Cobalt, Boost/Vacuum, 30 in. Hg/30 psi, 2 1/16 in.
7.) ATM-6175 - Gauge, Cobalt, Digital, Air/Fuel Ratio, Lean/Rich, 2 1/16 in.
8.) ENS-3-1108R - Bushing, Transmission Mount, Zinc Finish, Red
9.) ENS-3-1112R - Bushing, Torque Arm, Polyurethane, Red
10.) AER-FBM2721 - Fitting, Straight, -4 AN Male to 1/8 in. NPT Female, Steel
11.) RUS-658270 - Hose, Braided Stainless Steel, -4 AN Female Ends
12.) MSD-31833 - Spark Plug Wires, Super Conductor, Spiral Core, 8.5mm
13.) MSD-8366 - Distributor, Magnetic Pickup, Electronic Advance
Total : $894

some stuff i bought 4 of like the oilfilters the sparkplugs got 16 just to have in the garage.. will post some more info and pics when it arrives

later all, and thanks again

customblackbird

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yea most of your $$ went to the cobalt gauges they are nice but some major $$.

not sure why u got the fuel pressure gauge since u only really need it to set the pressure and then it doesnt change. even for tuning purposes the only one needed was on the fuel rail. but still ur $ and it'll look cool.

same thing with the other 2. mostly just tuning and wont change after its set. but the boost i can see if your running a poweradder.

ive seen the cobalts and they are good lookin gauges. my bro's waiting for them to make 5" speedo and tach's so he can get em in his 68 vette convert with 509 merlin.

Jay

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It's good to be able to monitor. Helps with diagnosing issues. If the pressure drops suddenly then you know somethings up. My fuel supply hose had come loose in the tank and the car ran, but not right. If I had the fuel gauge hooked up at the time I would have seen that something wasn't right with the fuel supply right away. Not a requirement but it comes in handy.

Theking

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Yeah I had ALOT of problems for about 2years with the car now. finally got it running right, instead of having "normal" gauges hanging from the engine taped to the windscreen, I thought of this ones just to keep track of everything..

and the msd distributor are som $$ to..

And after this it will be, Edelbrock High-Flo intake with runners and Edelbrock TES headers... (next winter)

but as Jay said, its good to have these gauges to monitor pressure and vacuum and so.. A/F is good to.. right now im working on finetuning the prom And the fuelpressure changes when you give throttle, thats cool to see too

and the cobalt is soo cool to

http://irocz.info.se/ <-- all the projects will be on my page, with alot of info and pics.. dont forget to write in the guestbook.

HCR13

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I agree with Jay, I have my fuel pressure gauge to keep track of it... I can see the argument of the narrowband A/F...mine just jumps back and forth, but I do get an idea at WOT of the ratio..

GTA Sammy

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Do the glowshift units fit into the autometer triple guage T-Top pod well?

I've been wanting to put the triple gauge pod into my GTA for awhile but the cost was holding me back...... The glowshift units could make the idea possible.....

HCR13

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yeah, the glowshifts have been working pretty well. They fit nice and flush... I think I might have used a bit on sandpaper on one of the pods to make the hole a mm or 2 bigger...no biggie, I've had to do that with a previous universal pod holder..//hcr

Tobias05

would like to see those cobalts once you get everything installed.

Theking

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Yeah I will put some pictures up here when I get them and installing them.
will put alot of info and pictures at my homepage to, in my project part

they are ETA ~15 Mars so there is some days left ..

neagan

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It would be great to see how you mounted this in the engine bay. I'm going to run a couple guages there so I can see while I've got the hood up. I was thinking of running mine off the old 9th cold start injector plug and mounting them at the firewall, but yours might be easier. Do you feel up to posting a pic????? Thanx, Nitro

Stephen

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Just now saw this thread but here's an alternative....Can you do fiberglass? Buy the add-on pods, and set them where YOU want them. Maybe above the dash higher, so the dash can be more easily removed....

customblackbird

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where did u get the fiberglass one from?

Stephen

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A friend built it. I think he used those add-on pods, then just glassed over the edges to blend it in smoothly.

Jay

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What about the texture? It doesn't look smooth, it actually looks closer in that pic to the stock texture on the plastic than what the Autometer one is. I am planning on basically doing the same thing, just with the pillar section I already bought... but wasn't sure about getting the texture right.

Stephen

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Dunno.......He might covered the WHOLE pillar (with a thin coat), so whatever texture) he made matched. I'll ask him.

Theking

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Got some stuff today
Will start all the projects next week, will put up some thread about everything Hope you guys enjoy it



And next week I will get some more stuff

85SILVERBULLET1

CHRISTMAS!!! weeeeeeeeeee! Opening boxes of performance parts is just about my favorate thing to do.

antosh

well this is a little off topic but you said that you change your hardtop to a t-top, and i was wondering how you did that what did you have to do in order to make that work and can i get some pictures of that,

other than that i think that the gauges are going to look good in your car was also thinking of getting more gauges for mine and newer ones to replace the cheap stock ones

HCR13

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nice, glad to hear you finally got your stuff. Let us know if you need help with installs...

Theking

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Ive never changed the car from hardtop to t-top
It was done late in 1989 right after it left the factory so I really dont know how its made, (it was cheaper to get an t-top this way then right from the factory thats why the first owner bought a hardtop and then went to another company that made real t-tops..

Yeah the gauges will look real good

Theking

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Ive started a new thread to my projects here : https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/euro...ml#post3677343

So please write there (if you want to follow my projects

take care all