flaming-ford

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wassup guys i finally watched that fitch fuel additivie episode on horsepower for like the third time and it's truly peaked my interest. Basically i'm wondering if any1 has thrown these on a thirdgen camaro they own yet?

i personally dd my car and after i get it running a little better am planning on trying it out myself.

Honestly it makes no sense to me why it would help fuel consumption but, the numbers don't lie and on horsepower they had a 2.5 gph difference of fuel consumption while using 89 octane on a ls (blank) engine. I'm guessing this may be because, the ls engine needs the higher octane due to higher compression but, honestly i dunno i'm just curious if any1 has some first hand experience on an alike car.

IROCmenace

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I second that, I just saw the Fitch Catalyst system on Summit, it states to help emissions too, which we have here and I would love some added security.

flaming-ford

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kinda figured i'd bump this, i still would absolutely love to know as i plan to bump my lb9s compression to around 10-1 with the addition of new ported heads and cam come spring thanks guys.

flaming-ford

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am still dieing to hear some real life feedback.....

IROCmenace

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Flaming Ford, I guess it is up to us to get and find out some feedback. Seeing as I need about a blue million other things to get my car to the point of using the fitch, I will be generous and let you have first crack at it. Sound good?

flaming-ford

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well if i must come spring time i'll be 10 to with new head/cam swap i'll install 1 shortly after i do that and replace my leaky tank/rearend lol, put it on my to do list..... o well 1 way or another i'll buy it with my new top end because, i'd rather not buy 93 octane all the time lol

Busagirl

Hello Flamingo-Ford,

I am a bit familiar with the Fitch Fuel Catalyst. I first bought it 5 years ago for my motorcycle after reading about it in motorcyclist and cycle world. I understand the skepticism because the market has had so many "crappy" things on the market for a lack of better words, that make claims like this product. But much to my surprise, it actually worked. A local bike shop did a dyno test before and after I put Fitch in and the bike picked up 2.7 hp gain without adding anything else but Fitch to the tank. I cannot complain about that. The next thing I tried it in was a 1997 Anniversary Z28 (white w/orange stripes). I have to say, I was pretty impressed. Much like that Horsepower TV show, I was able to drop from 93 octane to 89 octane which at the prices fuel is these days, that alone is nice. I only picked up just about 1 mpg using Fitch, but I tend to attribute that to the fact I am a pretty aggressive driver. Anyways, I don't want to ramble too much but thought I'd give my two cents. I've seen Fitch on TV and in muscle magazine reviews and all of it is positive feedback plus, I really don't think Summit Racing would put their name on a product like Fitch, unless they tried it themselves and were convinced it worked because of all the other "scammy" products there are.

RU-QWIK

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First post huh?.......

Busagirl

Yup, first time posting. I don't tend to spend much time on the computer but when I spot something that I actually have experience with, I like to share it just like I appreciate hearing what others have for opinions about things I am thinking about purchasing for my car.

freestylzz

Gotta love those "extend your fuel mileage" additives.

Let's see, if a bottle of the stuff costs about $10, and most state "extend your mileage by UP TO 10%", then if you get 300 miles to the tank then thats about extra 30 miles. Now if you think about it, if you use that same $10 for fuel, you can get, say, 60 extra miles, then in fact you'd be in the hole.

Yup, .

Kevin91Z

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Summit sells Tornados too and those things are absolute junk.

flaming-ford

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lets not start bashing here, i said the same thing when i watched hp tv before they dyno'd the engine.

i'm not interested in it for a hp gain but, if i can use a lower octane fuel with my new top end i'm all ears for sure.

thanks a lot for info btw busa, anymore help on something a little closer to a sbc would be great though, even more so a tpi 305 haha.

btw the above about octane in a bottle is a little different that stuff isn't effective everyone knows it. + this has nothing to do with a 4 oz bottle upping your octane rating.

all the fuel is refined as it go's through the fitch which i beleive at this point, that it could realy realy help.

CashMunson

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how much does the setup cost? don't you just drop the pellets into your gas tank?

Apeiron

If someone can actually come up with a real scientific explanation of how that thing is supposed to work, other than it magically catalytically cracks hydrocarbons (somehow including methanol ), I'll fly to their house, strip naked, paint myself purple and dance the lambada in the middle of the street with a broom. Until then,

CashMunson

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260 bucks for the setup that supports 500 hp, which has to be a universal kit, they don't make one for my car.

if i can run 2 grades lower, and save 20 cents a gallon, i would save around 2.80 per tank of gas. that means it would take me 93 FULL tanks of gas before i'd come back out even with the 260 bucks it would take to buy the kit.

think i'll pass

flaming-ford

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well considering how much i fill up that would most definetly make me feel better but, my situation isnt the same as every1 elses.

383backinblack

from a chemical standpoint, if its supposed to ALSO work on methanol.....i'm calling BS on the whole thing. the only way you can increase octane is reduce the rate the fuel burns at (speaking catalytically) and i'm not sure how thats possible without ADDING something, and its clearly not....because those canister things are supposed to last for a long time, thats why its called a "catalyst" It sounds like total garbage to me, methanol and gasoline are 2 very different hydrocarbons.......theres no way it would work on both of them if worked on one or the other.

unless someone can show me the chemical conversion

Kevin91Z

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They claim it to work with diesel too.

BretD 88GTA

FWIW, here's the reply I got when I e-mailed Fitch about their product:

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The Fitch Fuel Catalyst is a metal alloy that causes a reaction with
hydrocarbon fuels such as gas, diesel, oil, kerosene, etc. This reaction
is very similar to the refining process but at a refinery they use heat
and pressure to "crack" octane or refine the fuel where we use our metal
alloy catalyst to create a similar environment but we do it on board a
machine at a low temperature. As fuel passes over the catalyst, it
transforms gasoline or diesel into a superior quality of fuel allowing a
combustion engine to extract the maximum amount of energy with minimal
emissions. Warranted for 250,000 miles, the FFC is a permanent treatment
that does not lose its potency and never dissolves or deteriorates which
is why it differs from additives that require replenishing.

Keep in mind, the Fitch Fuel Catalyst simply treats fuel, not a make,
model or year vehicle. All engines will benefit from the use of the
Fitch Fuel Catalyst.

An engine operates most efficiently and produces maximum horsepower and
torque when it is running on the highest quality fuel. Gasoline and
diesel is at its most optimal quality when it is first refined but
unfortunately during storage and transportation, the fuel quality
drastically diminishes. Sacrificed horsepower/torque and efficiency of
an engine may be the result of this poorer fuel quality. A less than
optimal fuel will also produce more emissions, soot build up, and
deposits in engine oil and injectors. The Fitch Permanent Fuel
Treatment will boost octane in gasoline, increase cetane in diesel and
re-refine the fuel quality, returning it to a superior "refinery" fresh
state guaranteeing maximum performance and efficiency from the engine.
Remember, Fitch is NOT an additive - it is long term fuel treatment
offering a number of benefits:

* Increased Fuel Economy (averages 1 - 2.5 mpg)
* Improved Horsepower & Torque
* Improved Octane in Gasoline
* Improved Cetane & Lubricity in Diesel Fuel
* Reduced Emissions & Soot Build Up
* Extended Engine Longevity
* Reduced Overall Engine Maintenance

Apeiron

Yup,

Kevin91Z

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I wonder how many times they have responded with that canned answer so far.

All I know about it, is I wont be the first to try it.

383backinblack

well this is easy enough to fake......

seeing as just about ANY test that'll ever be done on it, will be done brand new.....they can fill a canister with a bunch of useless junk, and put enough fuel additive of their choice in there, to make a difference on the 1st few dyno pulls/tanks of gas.......

then after that, its just a big, fat fuel line extension lol

but no one the wiser, cause they got sick fuel mileage right out of the box and it made 3 more hp lol......and then people stop paying attention

Busagirl

Well, here I am again and boy, you men, (I assume) sure are skeptical about things. Must have been burnt before, yeh? I guess I look at things a bit different. It's hard to "label" something fake or useless if you don't have first hand knowledge or experience with it. You know what they say, ignorance is bliss. All I can say is that Fitch worked for me and I was happy with it. I am sure that may not be the case with every Fitch customers but that is no different than any aftermarket product. There is no pleasing every retail consumer - just not possible. The only thing I can say is that Fitch offers a 90 Day Money back guarantee so if all else fails, send the thing back to the company and get your money back BUT, if it work, great!!

Apeiron

Actually it's very easy to label something as fake when you examine it from established scientific principles.

freestylzz

Stuff like this has been going on for hundreds of years.....

Snake oils. Ultimately, your money ends up in someone elses pocket. The market is riddled with this stuff, and it's not just in the automotive end of things.

Unfortunately there is no one organization or government body that scientifically proves these claims. And many of these manufacturers which make "scientific" claims they work are based on their OWN scientific research. Kinda hard to discredit your own product when your bottom line is about making money.

CashMunson

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do you run a tornado also?

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

"The easiest way to get dramatic fuel savings and improved horsepower!
The Tornado is a revolutionary device designed to enhance fuel economy. The Tornado is a non-moving, turbine-shaped device, which creates a vortex or swirling effect to the engine. The result is improved airflow into the engine's combustion chamber, causing a more efficient mixture between air and fuel. The Tornado will work in either a carbureted or electronic fuel injected engine. The Tornado's unique airflow dynamics create a swirling, fast-burn effect in the combustion chamber. This creates finer particles (atomized fuel), allowing better flame propagation and more complete combustion. Tornado causes better fuel atomization, resulting in gas mileage increases averaging 1 to 2 mpg. These figures are confirmed by road testing performed at an emissions lab licensed by the EPA. The Tornado requires no maintenance and is backed by a limited lifetime warranty. Installation is accomplished in three easy steps and usually takes less than 10 minutes to complete."

klause83z28

I agree, this seems way to good to be true. Even with big names such as horsepower tv and hotrod tv, something can always be manipulated with tests, I feel this is the case in this instance as well. I would love to think it would work, but I don't feel like loosing the money that it's advertised for. I agree with aperion, a certain user here seems to be trolling for buyers on an unverified product. If you do any research, you'll find that most people that love and support this product are big companies, not the average man that most of us can relate to. I have never found the average person to say anything other than " I saw no affect whatsoever", or "I haven't purchased it yet and am needing opinion". Needless to say I think I will pass.


Cheers!!!

Colts45s

um i believe the purpose of this post was to get the opinions of people who have actually used the product? How can you review a product if you have never used it or been in the process of testing it. I would think as a moderator a little more restraint would have been used. and as members hmm grow up. The girl said it worked for her. I have been disappointed with the system mainly because i still feel it was too expensive for the gain.