Strut Tower Brace for Carbed Engines?
#2
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Car: 2002 SOM z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T-56
The Edelbrock one will fit, but not if you have AC... the compressor is in the way. George Lara used to make them, but I think he doesn't anymore.
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1984 z28 w/ a 357 cu in. monster engine which is looking like the posterchild for Edelbrock with the exception of the Holley 750vac... all the suspension stuff... 9-bolt posi disk is in...
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1984 z28 w/ a 357 cu in. monster engine which is looking like the posterchild for Edelbrock with the exception of the Holley 750vac... all the suspension stuff... 9-bolt posi disk is in...
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#3
I see Jegs has two edelbrock tower braces. One for an 82-92 TBI for 129.99 and one for 85-92 TPI for 159.99. Which should I get? I have an 84 with a 350 with which sits a Holley 750. Does one have more clearence than the other or should either one fit. Oh yea, theres no ac on my car.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Biochem:
The Edelbrock one will fit, but not if you have AC... the compressor is in the way. George Lara used to make them, but I think he doesn't anymore.
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The Edelbrock one will fit, but not if you have AC... the compressor is in the way. George Lara used to make them, but I think he doesn't anymore.
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From: Lakeland, Florida
Car: 91 RS Convertible
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Hey Chuck,
Which brand is that installed?
It does not look like the Edelbrock one in the Jegs catalog.
The one in Jegs is straight across in the front. Could the one in Jegs be a different year??
Which brand is that installed?
It does not look like the Edelbrock one in the Jegs catalog.
The one in Jegs is straight across in the front. Could the one in Jegs be a different year??
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#8
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From: Newark, DE
Car: 86' Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: T-56
That STB wont fit on any carbed car that has the AC compressor on the drivers side, it does hit the mounting bracket.
Thats reason number 3,456 why im ditching my AC system.
Eric
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My 1986 Z28
GM350, T-5, 3.23's, lots of go fast goodies, 4th gen Firebird interior etc...
85 IROC w/ 1364 miles!
You'll always find what you've lost in the last place you look
R.I.P Dale Earnhardt
Thats reason number 3,456 why im ditching my AC system.
Eric
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My 1986 Z28
GM350, T-5, 3.23's, lots of go fast goodies, 4th gen Firebird interior etc...
85 IROC w/ 1364 miles!
You'll always find what you've lost in the last place you look
R.I.P Dale Earnhardt
#10
I can tell you that it is a 14x3 air cleaner he is using. That looks almost exactly like my motor.
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1991 Camaro RS, approximately 500hp 355, 11:1 compression, Eagle h-beam rods, forged steel crank, TRW lightweight 2 valve relief pistons, comp cams hydraulic roller, fully ported Dart Iron Eagle heads, Victor Jr., Holley 750, Hooker shorty headers w/3" collector, true dual 3" exhaust, Moroso spiral mufflers, T56 6-speed, Boyd Coddington 17x9, 17x11 wheels, 275/40zr17 fronts, 315/35zr17 rears, Cerillo racing seats w/ harnesses, Harwood cowl hood, 4:10 posi, Global West adjustable rear suspension, panhard bar and torque arm, Hotchkis front and rear springs, 1LE sway bars, Koni adjustable shocks.
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1991 Camaro RS, approximately 500hp 355, 11:1 compression, Eagle h-beam rods, forged steel crank, TRW lightweight 2 valve relief pistons, comp cams hydraulic roller, fully ported Dart Iron Eagle heads, Victor Jr., Holley 750, Hooker shorty headers w/3" collector, true dual 3" exhaust, Moroso spiral mufflers, T56 6-speed, Boyd Coddington 17x9, 17x11 wheels, 275/40zr17 fronts, 315/35zr17 rears, Cerillo racing seats w/ harnesses, Harwood cowl hood, 4:10 posi, Global West adjustable rear suspension, panhard bar and torque arm, Hotchkis front and rear springs, 1LE sway bars, Koni adjustable shocks.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sunbitz:
Hey Chuck,
Which brand is that installed?
It does not look like the Edelbrock one in the Jegs catalog.
The one in Jegs is straight across in the front. Could the one in Jegs be a different year??
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Hey Chuck,
Which brand is that installed?
It does not look like the Edelbrock one in the Jegs catalog.
The one in Jegs is straight across in the front. Could the one in Jegs be a different year??
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#12
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demon Z28:
Chuck, what size air filter is that? I'm thinking of getting an STB soon and need to know ifn a 14" is ok to use with them </font>
Chuck, what size air filter is that? I'm thinking of getting an STB soon and need to know ifn a 14" is ok to use with them </font>
Conventional 14” air cleaner.
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From: Houston, TX
Car: 2001 Camaro SS
Engine: Almighty LS1
Transmission: T56
just outta curiosity how much are you selling it for?
How much are they normally as well, I never really looked at the prices for em yet...
How much are they normally as well, I never really looked at the prices for em yet...
#16
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From: Brick, NJ
Car: 91 TA vert
Engine: 355
Transmission: T5
brand new they are 130. and thats for the newer style. Mine costed im pretty sure it was 160 in november when i bought it. Now i bought an iroc-z and i might part out the trans am but 65 for the strut brace
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From: Colorado USA
Car: '83 Firebird (T/A Clone)
Engine: 350 carbed with L-69 components
Transmission: 700R-4 w/2000 RPM stall converter
Axle/Gears: 10-bolt/3.73 ..
What about the dual snorkle H.O. aircleaner setup & A/C on the driver side....is there a STB made for this ?...
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'83 Trans Am clone;
700R-4, 3.42:1 rearend, Z-28 suspension, H.O. dual snorkel air cleaner, H.O. exhaust manifolds & system, 180* 'stat, stock ECM. Awaiting 350 swap with CompCams 212/218 --.444/.444 -- 110* LSA
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'83 Trans Am clone;
700R-4, 3.42:1 rearend, Z-28 suspension, H.O. dual snorkel air cleaner, H.O. exhaust manifolds & system, 180* 'stat, stock ECM. Awaiting 350 swap with CompCams 212/218 --.444/.444 -- 110* LSA
#20
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From: UTAH
Car: 1982 Z28 & 1967 RS & 2002 Z28
Engine: 388 ci SB / 454 ci BB / LS1
Transmission: 4 speed / TH350 / T56
Axle/Gears: '91 "1LE" rear, posi w/ 3.23's
"George Lara used to make them, but I think he doesn't anymore."
That't the one I have! (two point legal in ESP in SCCA), and it fits with dual snorkel and drivers side A/C. IT'S GREAT!!!, I got the edelbrock one for christmas 00', and much to my dismay it didn't fit so I went through this in JAN. of this year
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1967 Camaro RS w/ 454 restoration in progress.
1982 Camaro Z28 MANY mods and someday some HP
MECP certified car audio installer
SCCA autox ESP class #28
That't the one I have! (two point legal in ESP in SCCA), and it fits with dual snorkel and drivers side A/C. IT'S GREAT!!!, I got the edelbrock one for christmas 00', and much to my dismay it didn't fit so I went through this in JAN. of this year
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1967 Camaro RS w/ 454 restoration in progress.
1982 Camaro Z28 MANY mods and someday some HP
MECP certified car audio installer
SCCA autox ESP class #28
#21
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From: North Canton, Ohio
Car: 1982 Firebird
Engine: sbc 307
Transmission: 200
Does the STB get in the way when you are working on your motor? Or do you just take it off when you work on it? Just curious because I am interested in getting one. How much of a differance do they make also? Thanks.
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Car: 2002 SOM z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T-56
If it gets in the way, you can unbolt it pretty easy I think. My biggest problem has been that the brackets on the strut towers DO NOT FIT unless I move the strut adjustment plates back a bit more. Edelbrock is very reluctant to tell you this needs to be done too... I had a lot more respect for them before I went through this whole ordeal!
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1984 z28 w/ a 357 cu in. monster engine which is looking like the posterchild for Edelbrock with the exception of the Holley 750vac... all the suspension stuff... 9-bolt posi disk is in...
-=ICON Motorsports=-
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1984 z28 w/ a 357 cu in. monster engine which is looking like the posterchild for Edelbrock with the exception of the Holley 750vac... all the suspension stuff... 9-bolt posi disk is in...
-=ICON Motorsports=-
#23
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From: Hacienda Heights, CA
Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi
Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
As far as the STB getting in the way of working on the engine. It depends on what you are doing. I replaced my water pump without removing it. But removed it for the header installation. For replacing sparkplugs & general maintenance it can stay in place. Four bolts, six in my case since mine ties into the radiator support. But it is less than a 5 minute job to pull it out.
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#24
I just got my STB this past Wednesday and it took all of a half hour to put on, it was a tight fit on the towers, but it all worked out. I got the one edelbrock makes and there is definately a diffrence. Along with the larger sway bar i put on, there is vertually no effort made in turns now. Corners are much easier to negotiate along with winding roads.
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86 Sport Coupe
LG4 Auto
Mods
PAW headers/ y-pipe Dynomax Super Converter with a 3" bullet muffler installed in the Intermediate pipe
Edelbrock Open element air filter
L69 ECM
Moog Variable rate rear springs
edelbrock STB
86' GTA front sway bar (36mm)
Black Iroc Interior
Kenwood 120 watt head, Kenwood 6x9's jensen 4x6's rampage 100 watt amp to 6x9's
Future Mods
Carter AFB 625
Holley intake
Accel HEI Dist
Hooker 3-1/2" tips
Holley fuel Pump
Chrome dress up
A/F, water temp, voltage guages
SFC's, Lower control arms and panhard bar.
Much more to come, just havent thought of it yet.
It isnt breaking the law........till you get caught.
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86 Sport Coupe
LG4 Auto
Mods
PAW headers/ y-pipe Dynomax Super Converter with a 3" bullet muffler installed in the Intermediate pipe
Edelbrock Open element air filter
L69 ECM
Moog Variable rate rear springs
edelbrock STB
86' GTA front sway bar (36mm)
Black Iroc Interior
Kenwood 120 watt head, Kenwood 6x9's jensen 4x6's rampage 100 watt amp to 6x9's
Future Mods
Carter AFB 625
Holley intake
Accel HEI Dist
Hooker 3-1/2" tips
Holley fuel Pump
Chrome dress up
A/F, water temp, voltage guages
SFC's, Lower control arms and panhard bar.
Much more to come, just havent thought of it yet.
It isnt breaking the law........till you get caught.
#25
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From: Tallahassee, FL. USA
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 350 Crate Motor
Transmission: Tremec TKO
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 3.73
I used the Ground Control Strut Tower Brace.Mine is a TBI car, but it'll clear a carb as well.I'm using a 14"x3" Air cleaner
and I've got plenty of room. Doesn't interfere with the A/C compressor either.
Also looks awesome as it's very beefy and
uses large steel rod-ends.
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1992 RS,5 Speed,T-Tops,Eibach Springs(cut), KYB's, Lakewood Trailing Arms and Adjustable Panhard Bar,Posi Disc Rear,3.73 Gears,Summit Rearend Support Cover,
Del-A-Lum Bushings,300 HP Crate Motor,Crane Comp-U-Cam,Edelbrock TBI Intake, Turbo City Ported Throttle Body and Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator,Open Element
Air Cleaner, Ground Control Strut Tower Brace and Caster/Camber Adjusters,SLP 1-5/8" Headers,Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Exhaust,3" Cat,Centerforce Dual
Friction Clutch,Hayes Billet Flywheel,B&M Power Steering Cooler,Big Thumpin' Stereo.
and I've got plenty of room. Doesn't interfere with the A/C compressor either.
Also looks awesome as it's very beefy and
uses large steel rod-ends.
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1992 RS,5 Speed,T-Tops,Eibach Springs(cut), KYB's, Lakewood Trailing Arms and Adjustable Panhard Bar,Posi Disc Rear,3.73 Gears,Summit Rearend Support Cover,
Del-A-Lum Bushings,300 HP Crate Motor,Crane Comp-U-Cam,Edelbrock TBI Intake, Turbo City Ported Throttle Body and Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator,Open Element
Air Cleaner, Ground Control Strut Tower Brace and Caster/Camber Adjusters,SLP 1-5/8" Headers,Flowmaster 3" American Thunder Exhaust,3" Cat,Centerforce Dual
Friction Clutch,Hayes Billet Flywheel,B&M Power Steering Cooler,Big Thumpin' Stereo.
#26
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From: Lakeland, Florida
Car: 91 RS Convertible
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Guess I'm the odd one in the group.
I just got my strut tower brace for a TBI car and the heater hose valve is in the way.
The simple solution is to cut the hoses back and install the brace, but I'm wondering if I need this diverter valve for the heater core.
I'd kinda like to keep the valve on there for the simple reason I can redirect the water away from the heater core if it decides to leak.
what have you guys done with this valve?
I don't see it on chuck's car.
I just got my strut tower brace for a TBI car and the heater hose valve is in the way.
The simple solution is to cut the hoses back and install the brace, but I'm wondering if I need this diverter valve for the heater core.
I'd kinda like to keep the valve on there for the simple reason I can redirect the water away from the heater core if it decides to leak.
what have you guys done with this valve?
I don't see it on chuck's car.
#27
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From: Somewhere in Nebraska
Engine: turbocharged 4 cyl Dohc
Transmission: 5 spd sentronic
here is what my set-up STB looks like
i don't have the the diverter valve in the K&N open element, the leading from the TBI to the snorkel i used a 90 d elbow from the snorkel kit then used a vacumn cap on it
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i don't have the the diverter valve in the K&N open element, the leading from the TBI to the snorkel i used a 90 d elbow from the snorkel kit then used a vacumn cap on it
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