big_ty2003

What are some of the best laser/radar detectors out on the market and about how much do they cost? Im looking for one in the $100 to $200 range. thanks

MdFormula350

the one called whistler, around 70 bucks my friend uses it..

Z28DJP1987

Save your money until you can get a Escort 8500 or Val 1 the cheap ones are not worth it. Read the reviews in Car & Driver earlier this year. The 8500 is my fourth Radar Detector I've owned in the last 15 yrs and it is the BEST one.

85transamtpi

If you can afford a good one, then get one. You WILL know where the extra money went after you start to use it.

If you dont have a lot of money, I recomend Whistler detectors. I bought one a few years ago to replace a V1 that I sold off (dumb move). I am actually fairly happy with it. The sensitivity is almost a good (what is really important), but the features are definetly way worse. I have never had either detector let me down (no speeding tickets, ever)

-Doug

Nic

I have a fool proof method of avoiding speeding tickets that has never failed me in the 6 years that I've been driving...don't speed

maroon91rs

This coming from a Mustang owner!! You guys cant go fast enough to speed anyways! LOL J/P!! I know your cars quick man.You got my respect.

Nic

Kiss it!

mtx28

vote for the valentine one here. i used to have a $70 one. i decided if i'm going to get one and it be worth a damn, i'm going to shell out the cash and do it. I read alot of reviews about it and the escort 8500 and decided the valentine one was clearly better. read on their site about why it is, you will be convinced.

CrazyHawaiian

The only ones I ever seen that really worked cost more than $200. Unless you live in an area where they still use Radar ... everywhere I know of uses Laser now. Most detectors will alert you when the policeman has his laser gun aimed at you. So in effect it let you know that you just got a ticket. Not worth it!!

The trick is finding one that will alert you AND jam the laser so it reads incorrectly and gives you time to slow down before he does another reading. The systems I have seen that have worked involved either a special liscense plate frame or sensors you place on the car to creat a 'dead zone'. When a policeman shoots his laser gun at your car he needs to find a level surface for the laser to reflect back. Thats why most cops will aim at your front plate. If you have the special plate frame jammer, he wont be able to read your speed when he aims at your plate. He could aim at other parts of your car, but thats why they came out with the sensors. You place one at each corner front of your hood (under the hood so its hidden), and another set under your ground f/x on each corner. This creates the 'dead zone' so the policeman wont be able to get a reading.

So thats all I've seen that works. They cost $300 and up, but considering how much speeding tickets are, two or three jammings could have already make it worth it. Other ways to lower the chances of not getting caught that dont cost any money would be either, 1 dont speed, or 2 mount your front plate at an angle facing down so when the cop aims at your plate it wont reflext back and he'll have to find another area of the car. Hopefully you see him and slow down in time.

rx7speed

hey nic I have a better idea


you don't want tickets


buy a mustang


no not the v8 one.... but the 4 cyl... then d/c a plug wire or two... now you will never speed

mtx28

crazy, comon dude. dont feed him too much crap here. could you point me in the direction of a legal radar/laser jammer that WORKS? the 'special license plate frame' is a scam, as well as the tinted crap people put over their rear plates to make it harder to read. No, they DO NOT work. aiming it down doesnt do anything either..

i'm curious as to see more about these 'sensors' that create a 'dead zone' around your car, the only other vehicle i was aware that was effectively 'dead' to radar are stealth air craft.

sober333

I have a cobra radar detector with voice alert i twas $99.95 and it works ok

86fbird350

i have a cobra laser/radar dector that works just fine. Need proof ive gotten a speedig a ticket. It cost 70$ with a 10$ rebate at Best Buy.

CrazyHawaiian

I'm not feeding anyone any crap. What I typed is what I've seen. If you're looking for a LEGAL way to avoid tickets then DONT SPEED. I have no idea if the laser jammer systems I saw were legal. I dont know the brand either. All I know is that it costs over $300 and he found it in some major car magazine (maybe Car & Driver? I dunno) I was riding with one of my old coworkers in his turbo Volvo (what can I say its not my car) and his jammer alert went off. We couldnt see the policeman, but he was going 95 in a 55. He slowed down and about a mile up ahead under an overpass in the dark was a Bike cop. We passed by him doing the speed limit and he gave us a really stink look. No ticket, didnt even pull us over. This was the system with the sensors that caused a 'dead zone' So from what I've seen yes they do work. I have also owned one of those cheap laser detectors and it didnt protect me from anything. It went off once and I was signing the ticket a few minutes later (despite my efforts to slow down as fast as I could right when I heard the alarm).

I dont know what special liscense plate frame you saw, but the stuff I'm talking about isnt a scam. I'm sure there are alot of scams out there ... buyer beware. Also, the covers over the plate that make it impossible to read at certain angles DO work. They wont prevent anyone from reading your speed with a laser gun, but they will prevent speeding cams. Recently in Hawaii they tried to implement speeding Cameras. Everyone I know that bought those plate lenses didnt get a ticket. Most people I know that didnt buy one did get a ticket (for something like 60 in a 50). I just took off my front plate and drove around with my rear plate flipped down. Also, angling your front plate down CAN prevent a policeman from reading your speed if he is aiming at the plate. Like I said before, they need to find a level surface for the laser to reflect back and if you aim the plate down then it will reflect into the ground and they wont get a reading back. One cool setup I saw involved relocaing the plate to the tip of the bumper (wouldnt work on our cars), then just attach it by the top two bolts of the plate. When you drive the windspeed would push the bottom part of the plate down and cause it to be angled, but when you were going slow it would look normal. Pretty cool.

Z28DJP1987

A lot of , the question was about what Radar detector to buy. Its just a tool to let you know what enforcement is active in the area you are driving in. That means you adjust your driving to conditions.

85transamtpi

In the chicagoland area EVERY department uses X, K or KA bands.

I have only been hit with a laser once...and that was on the expressway in a speed trap.

The fact of the matter is that most cops are just way to lazy to use laser on a consistant basis.

And as I said, I used to own a V1...now a cheap whistler. The whistler works almost just as well (always gives me plenty of warning)

-Doug

Z28DJP1987

Your right about the Lazer, not to many cops are going to stand or use a lazer gun out a open window in cold weather. To them its no fun hold ing that 7# Lazer gun. Yes the old stand by is Radar and better yet if they keep it turned on.

Mark305TBI

Legal effective laser jamming. Click Here.

Rosco the Iroc

I have to wade in on this thread. OK 1st of all I work on the real thing(AN/ALQ-126B,AN/ALR-67) for F-14's and F/A-18s. Most detectors are ok. Yes lazer and radar are 2 differnt things to sense and defeat.
Radar: Detect again most on the market are good will warn you in a good amt of time unless it's a instant-on radar or a "gun" and he waits to shoot you and then your done. As for "jamming" Car and Driver did a story on it about 8 years ago and proved that these "phazer" and any other jammers are $200-400 paperweights. Yes they do detect and that's why they are illegal in some states and not due to there jamming. For any one who realy wants to argue look at the back of you comp, see that little stick from the FCC saying it does not produce ant interferance but has to take any? If it's going to interfere with anyother electroic device FCC will not let it be sold. So of they are being sold well they don't jamm squat! Also in that story they tested one sold as kit and it did work but the guy was allready under inditement for it. I never followed up on it. Also the mith of alum foil in the rims is BS and do not take your microwave apart it will not jamm. Most cop radars are around 30,32,34GHZ.
Lazer: Light is just a much higher freq signal and can be defeated. Also the FCC does not regulate infrared like other bandwiths so people can make infrared emmiters and have them be legal. Also you can tune plastic to be vis clear but not to lazer. Buy the way your headlights produce "white light" that has all freq's in it inc infrared it's just not focused into a beam and in the same story driving with you head and driving lights on cut the capture range of a lazer gun down 30%. Not having a front plate helps alot. Sorry if I pissed on someones wheateies but stopping Saddam from shooting down our planes is what I do and I know that those things are a ripoff and the people who sell them should be staked out on a ant hill on high noon with honey poured of a body part of your choice.

ontogenesis

what he said

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

The V1.

SYPHON556

Alright, I've used both a $70 dollar whistler and a $300 Escort.

I honestly don't know the difference, but it's mostly becuase the cops here drive with their radars off most of the time.

And just so you know, whether the cop has his radar on or off he can still see that you are speeding when you're driving 80 on a 35mph road so don't just assume you're safe...

NTChrist

Rrrrright. A radar jammer creates a dead-zone around your car.

What it really does, is sends back conflicting radar signals when it recieves one from a gun. Basically, the gun can't decide what speed you're going, and displays nothing.
No magical "dead zones."
Illegal in only a handful of states.

NTChrist

BTW, my cheap-*** Uniden has saved me from getting a single ticket since I bought it 1 year ago.

If you want an idea of how often I used to get tickets, check out my 1 year old thread on the Theoretical board, titled "Legal Advice after getting a ticket."

acidboy

I've read reports that these don't work. Apparentely if you take the negatives of these pictures, the plate comes out clear as day.

I don't know the validity of that report though. For all I know it could have been police funded.

Black92Z28

I have this radar/laser jammer and have never received a ticket since I purchased it.

http://www.technoscout.com/general/p...III&site=85001

caraudioaddict

PLAIN AND SIMPLE

radar/laser detectors are a WASTE of money. Period.

about 99.999999% of the cops I know use a trick so that detctors cannot work.

The cops don't turn on their guns untill they can see you. Bam, not only did your $200+ detector not work, you got yerself a speeding ticket to boot.

Detectors can only work if the cop has his gun turned on. If he waits untill he can see you, he'll have your speed before your detector can warn you.

Jammers are 325% illegal, and can't work due to physics. In order for a jammer to work, you must over power the cops signal on the same frequency that he his using, and point the jammer DIRECTLY at the cops gun. And no the rumor about 100watt light bulbs is incorrect

Now I'm not saying don't speed. But use your speed wisely. Don't speed in town or on busy highways and more often than not the cops will let you off with a warning.

TransAm12sec

This is where I get my info on Radar Detectors

http://www.radartest.com/

rx7speed

with the jammers I wouldn't think you are trying to overpower the radar signal, but rather try to mix your signal in with his to "confuse" the radar gun. also you don't have to have a narrow beam and point it right at the cops gun

radar guns have a very wide shot range and I'm sure a jammer does the same thing if it is for radar. and so if you can get him within the window of your radar signal you don't have to aim straight at him. as far as how they work... I have heard many results on the subject but I have seen a test on car & driver or some tv show like that where they tested about 10 different jammers.. I think only 2-3 had any really effect on the radar gun


with laser though jamming that would be very hard to do I would think.... not worht the money to buy a laser detecter as it is

if it goes off that's it your too late and being lasers have such a fine line that they shoot they can hit your liscense and you wouldn't even know it like you would with a radar system

mtx28

Not sure if you read the post I was replying to, but I was saying that with deep, dripping, abounding sarcasm because the guy before me was talking about a system that supposedly did this.

wyclefsirocz

get the v1 but i don't have the cash for it so i try not to speed, don't want that kinda **** on my record. insurnce in ny is enough already

Black88GTA

This is true, however if the cop is in fact using instant on radar (most of the ones I've encountered have it on all the time) then he'll be gunning other traffic in front of you. If you get a good detector with a decent range on it, and it starts going off...falling silent...going off, then you'll know there's a cop up ahead radaring people. I pull to the middle lane and nail the speed limit whenever this happens, and sure enough, about a mile up the road there's usually a cop in the median checking for speeders.

So, they are not a waste of money, IMO, especially if you're a lead foot on the expressway. My Passport 8500 cost me $250 online about a year ago, and has been well worth it. You could probably find the same thing on Ebay for $100-150 right now if you looked around hard enough. Even if you avoid one fine of $75 minimum, and 2 points on the license, it's already paid for itself in avoided fines and avoided increased insurance rates due to the points on the license. Mine's paid for itself a couple times over already. Just my .02.

TransAm12sec

Where did you find your 8500 Black88? I'm going either with the Bel Victor 940 for around 155 or the 8500, but I can't find any decent prices for it.

mtx28

exactly. which is why my v1 has saved me several times. I'd have had to sell my car a long time ago if it wasnt for my detector..

ronterry

If they can monitor me, I want to be able to monitor them - monitoring me

One note with instant on; If he can see me to use it, I can see him - to hit the brakes.

If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Basically I don't go wild at night, and assume that if the detector doesn’t go off that I'm cleared for 140+.

I've had a Bell 9** series for awhile now, and I guess if I where to buy one tomorrow I would take a serious look the Passport 8500.

One more tip, don't drive around with a G-Tech mounted next to your radar detector.

Ron

liobes

Go with the valentine one - it provides almost 360degrees of protection - But I will say one thing - not speeding is your best bet

it's funny......before I bought my valentine one, I was a drive erractically and take chances kind of guy - but after I bought my valentine one, I noticed my driving habits changed and I mellowed out more
I guess it's just that feeling of being "protected"

350z28

there is a site that sells a jamer called phazer 2 and works well. i paid 160 for mine and it work like a charm. i work at a gas station and get to know a lot of cops so i get out of a lot of stuff but i had one shoot his radar and laser at me and all he got was a zero reading. sometimes a cop will still pull you over even though it isnt un common for them to get a zero reading, so all you have to do for this is unplug it and say it wasn't on if he askes. the site is http://www.auto-radar-detectors.com/phazradjam.html enjoy a ticket free world.

irocbirdbuilder

i got a whistler for about a hundred so far so good i haven't gotten fried yet so..