TBI Throttle Body Injection discussion and questions. L03/CFI tech and other performance enhancements.

Is VSS really needed?

Old 10-22-2005, 01:23 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
codeslinger57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Amarillo, Texas
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 TBI Camaro, 1987 S-10, 1979 Blazer, 1985 El-Camino
Engine: 350 Chevy-----What else is there!!!
Transmission: 700-R4
Is VSS really needed?

I have a complete throttle body setup I want to put on an older 79 camaro I have. I am pretty sure how to get everything that is needed adapted over and working, except for the VSS. Is there a way to go around even having it on the car, or in other words, can i delete it all together, or is it really essential to the fuel calculations the computer does.

Or is there a way to hook one up to work with the cable driven speedo. I think I remeber seeing some cars with an external sending unit in line with the speedo cable, but dont remeber what on.

Im not looking for ward to trying to cobble up my dash to get a non stock speedo head with a vss unit crammed in a dash board that it dosent really fit in. I have also seen some converted GM systems for sale to retro fit older cars to EFI that dont say anything about hooking up a VSS. I would really like to use the system I have already that came off a 1991 pickup.

Thanks for your help and suggetions.
Old 10-22-2005, 11:45 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
dimented24x7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Posts: 9,962
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 88 Camaro SC
Engine: SFI'd 350
Transmission: TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
You need the VSS or the car will never idle properly. Some of the older camaros, trucks, and Im sure a bunch of other GM cars had the VSS/buffer box on the back of the speedo. You can probably also get a cable driven VSS aftermarket as well. Im sure someone makes such a thing.
Old 10-23-2005, 02:41 PM
  #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
codeslinger57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Amarillo, Texas
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1985 TBI Camaro, 1987 S-10, 1979 Blazer, 1985 El-Camino
Engine: 350 Chevy-----What else is there!!!
Transmission: 700-R4
Idle quality affected?

I guess Im not following, since the car isn't moving at idle, how would the VSS have an influnce on idle quality? Does it have something to do with coast down mixture, or IAC motor positioning?

Thanks again

PS...dimented i saw a pic of your motor on another thread, and thats a really wild looking MAF setup. Is that better than runing a MAP? And also are you running a TBI based computer, or a Tuned Port type code? sorry for getting of subject...
Old 10-23-2005, 09:45 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
dimented24x7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moorestown, NJ
Posts: 9,962
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 88 Camaro SC
Engine: SFI'd 350
Transmission: TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
Without the VSS, the computer has no way of knowing that the car is stationary, or when to transition from idle to run and so fourth. Theres alot of stuff thats influenced by the VSS. Throttle follower, idle routine, decel fuel cut off, etc.


NP, the code was stuff that I wrote for the stock ECM. It worked well, was easy to tune, and even passed emmisions, but the ECM really didnt have enough processing power to allow for all the needed code, so Im currenty transitioning to a PCM. So its back to speed density untill I figure out how to best tie in the MAF.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
IROCZ1989
North East Region
7
01-24-2016 03:55 PM
kitt23
Exterior Parts Wanted
2
08-15-2015 12:37 PM
mizz0313
Transmissions and Drivetrain
3
08-12-2015 06:45 AM
86camaroman201
Fabrication
0
08-11-2015 10:39 PM
GEmrsn
Interior Parts Wanted
3
08-08-2015 03:15 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Is VSS really needed?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:40 AM.