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Old 08-16-2005, 09:37 PM
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Rescearching the Z28-E History and Facts

ok well i have been trying to rescearching the Z28-E for a couple of months. i have started a couple of threads on the Z28-E heres the links.

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thread about Z28-E magazine article
z28-e magazine article

ok i was looking at my copy of "Camaro the third generation" [i have not looked at this book in a fue months] i look at the inside cover and saw a sticker that said camaro Z28-E world premier so i wanted to share it with you guys. i am trying to use this new info to help me in my search to find info on the Z28-E. i have also purched a 1982 Z28-E factory photo. so when i find out more information i will post it. also if any one can help me please post any info you have thanks.
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ok just got some more information i just bought a factory photo of the Z28-E and i got a paper with it that was typed. heres the info from it the paper says the Z28-E was for sale in several overseas markets as a luxury, sports turing car. they all where painted the same, silver metallic with charcoal rocker and front air dam accents. and all where powered by a 5.0-liter, four-barrel V8 engine. it goes on to say it was not offered on north america and it containes several features unlike its domestic counterpart, including clear plastic headlamp covers, special taillamps and license plate pockets. i will post more info when i get it
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Where did you first hear about the Z28E. Ive been around fbodys my whole life and have never heard of a z28e. When you find some more info on it let me know
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hey i found this board looks like its loaded with info let me know if this helps http://fbodyeurope.org/

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Z28-E CONCEPT CAR (GT-Z)

ok heres a little more info. i got this from the book "camaro the third generation" (the pictures there edited to fit on one post)

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Hedlight covers, special graphics, revised tail lamps atand out amoung the European Camaro's suggested dising attributes. For years, Camaro outsold all other American cars in Germany, so GM decided to create a specific modle the GT-Z --for European market. GT-Z's hood includes raised central portion.


REALLY SORRY PICTURE TO BIG WILL POST IN A COUPLE DAYS GOT TO MAKE THEM SMALLERSORY

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the Z28-E aslo got appears to have the windshield mounted antenna, notice no antenna in the mag pix on the passenger fender. (although it might be power)

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will some one please delete this post for some reasion i cant delete it

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What are the chances of those taillights still being available?
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Here´s an old pic of my 1982 Z28E.
The car was imported new to the Netherlands (i was the second owner from 1988 to 1992).
As all other Z28E´s it original was light grey metallic with dark grey / black ground effects.
The car came with the ugly big mirrors (these came on the car because all cars had to have mirrors that can fold in in case of hitting a biker or something) wich i replaced later.
There was a lg4 and a th200 tranny in it and no emissions stuff.
Also it had 4 wheel disc brakes (no posi), rear compartiment cover, power windows but no headlight covers!
All Z28e´s ive seen had the same light grey velours upholstery.
Back in that days almost every one changed the Z28E specific parts to normal us parts (mirrors, taillights)...
This car didn´t survive because of the wet climate overhere, it had rust on it almost everywhere.
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i think the ones with headlight covers were exported outside usa

i think i ve seen one in kuwait
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Z28-E CONCEPT CAR (GT-Z)

sorry for the delay bet heres the pictures
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"Hood contains raised central portion"

Can anyone explain?
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this link has the rare camaros

http://www.camarosource.ca/main_new_..._specialty.htm


one of the is 1985 GT-Z

no information available on this site,but u can search other sites,
but the pic looks different from the ones u posted
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Originally posted by lxcamaroxl
"Hood contains raised central portion"
Can anyone explain?
i do not know i was woundering the same thing it looks like a stock thirdgen hood to me
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I finally have found some production numbers for the Z28-E. I found them in the book titled "standard catalog of Camaro 1967-2002"

Year production #'s
1982 1300
1983 550
1984 487
1985 204

So that means in the four years that the Z28-E was produced there where only 2541 made. Thoes numbers where not included in the USA production numbers.
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wow! neat!

i like the clear light covers

anyone know of a close up image of those, how they are affixed to the nose??

any info ?

thanks!
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i think this is a pic of a z28E as u can see the rear fog lights
and no spoiler
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Great pic ajmclean! Looks like an '85 by the taillamps an rocker panels. Although the striping looks much narrower than the U.S. cars. Love those white/gold '85-'86 Z28's.
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someone one pointed me in the direction of this Z28-E on a foreign fbody web site i love the look of the color also
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Did you notice the forward side marker lights??? They bump out...


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Did you notice the forward side marker lights??? They bump out...
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yes i did notice thoes. i thought that was realy weird and the extra markers on the bumber i wouder why they added thoes
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even the pic of the car above has reflectors on the bumpers...

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i wounder if GM put them on or the owners did. i looked at both pics and the one in my link has rectangle reflectors and in the pic that ajmclean posted there square. there both from 1985 maby its only on 85 models or do you think its just an potion for that color package?
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I doubt it has to do with the color of the car, I would suspect that different countries have different regulations as to the reflectors, only someone who lives there would know. BUt I suspect that there manditory as per Governmental saftey regulations, and the owner has to put them on in some cases to be "legal" therefore there may be several different styles.

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this is a cool find!
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...regular all cars in europe must have an "E"-sign on reflector(parts) (...and on lamps, bulbs, windshields, windows etc....almost every part of an automobile...)

...today everything is regulated by some law in and from European Union...there are special departments for transportation, cars etc......
...the parts have the "E1", "E2", "E3" and so on-sign.....it is similar to your DOT and SAE....

(note: sealed beam-lamps were not permitted...at any time!)

...and red tail turn signals, red sidemarkers are not "legal", too....but sometimes there are special arrangements/special permits to use them...(luckily...so I didn't have to convert the tails of my old 79 TA...an I could use it as it was...in the past it was easier...)

...so if you import a car overhere (and is doesn't have a "E"-number on the reflector-part of a tailamp), you have to put on two of the little red reflectors...it doesn´t matter, if they are quadrate/square or rectangular.....but they must have a "E" sign..

...german TÜV is sometimes ...

...the little reflectors on the camaro were put on by dealer, importer and so on...or owner....not by GM...
(with introdution of the 4th Gen Firebird it changed....this car gets a very "ugly" tail for the in the US assembled official export modells....(bumper with integrated "E"-sign reflectors, place for a long euro license plate...and taillamps with amber turn light and required integrated tail fog light....)


(btw., sorry for my english, it's not my first/native language...reading is easier than writing...)

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thanks for filling us in on that helped me alot
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old post i know but i just heard about this car and searched it and i was wondering if there was anyone on this site that currently owns one and did they have any special options that the America ones didnt get?
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Some of the things are like the front turn signal side marker lights stick out further so that other drivers are more liklely to see you when changing lanes.

Some cases the collapsable mirrors (used on the early 87 GTA) were used.

Some years the radio antenna was located in the Windshield, whereas the only car to my knowledge was the Berlinetta with the US option.

Some Exported cars did not have the computer control engine management systems, other cases they would get a hotter cam or other minor engine modifications that were NA on US cars.

Little things like that appear to be the most obvious differences.
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at first i thought it was a special edition or something like that but really its just an export am i right?
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at first i thought it was a special edition or something like that but really its just an export am i right?
It is a "Special Edition" only insofar as it was only offered as an exported car. What is special about it is as mentioned above.

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oh ok are they legal in america/canada? and were their other thirdgens like this or just the z28-e? ever since ive heard about this thing its been drivin me nuts but thanks for your help
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Re: Rescearching the Z28-E History and Facts

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Some years the radio antenna was located in the Windshield, whereas the only car to my knowledge was the Berlinetta with the US option.
There were Berlinettas with windshield antennas? I have an old Super Chevy from '82 where one of the editors ordered an '82 Z28 with the windshield antenna option and the car was delivered with the regular fender mounted unit. They were told the option was cancelled and none were built.
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Well, that could have been only the 82 model year, it may have been available on other years. Or it could have been available only on the exported cars.
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I know for a fact I can get a windshield mounted antenna for my car. I contacted a local Glass place and asked about getting one, they were about the same price as a regular windshield...

Chances are they are NOS, as I doubt there is a huge demand for them... personaly I have never seen one, but I know they exist. As for the availability in the US, I am not sure, I have seen some lit somewhere where it listed it for the Berl and nothing else...

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Re: Rescearching the Z28-E History and Facts

Salut a tous
Félicitations pour ce travail de recherche, un lien d'une Z28-E allemande vendue il y a quelques années en France.
https://www.gt-spirit.fr/acheter-aut...7.html?vendu=1
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